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Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:15 pm to northshorebamaman
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Great Illustrated Classics
GOAT
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:18 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I went to LA public high school. We read, Thomas Hardy, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, and
Mark Twain.
Literature is rapidly becoming a lost art.
Mark Twain.
Literature is rapidly becoming a lost art.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:20 pm to Tigerbythetale
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All modern American literature comes from one book by Mark Twain called 'Huckleberry Finn
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:21 pm to Tigerbythetale
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The art of letters will come to an end before A. D. 2000. I shall survive as a curiosity.
~Ezra Pound
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:24 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
No. I have a life.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:26 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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How about Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky?
Only in the best of times.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:27 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I read all the time 

Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:29 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Kidding aside, literature is a part of a classical education.
I’ve read most of the philosophical and fictional writers you mentioned.
However, I would rather read “Master and Margarita” by Mikhail Bulgakov or “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” by Robert Pirsig over any of those authors.
These are philosophical and enjoyable, and incorporate the tenets of classical literature without being “necessary” for my mental development.
I’ve read most of the philosophical and fictional writers you mentioned.
However, I would rather read “Master and Margarita” by Mikhail Bulgakov or “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” by Robert Pirsig over any of those authors.
These are philosophical and enjoyable, and incorporate the tenets of classical literature without being “necessary” for my mental development.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:31 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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John Locke is and they are likely to answer, "I know the name. Now, who does he coach for?"
People are idiots.
John Locke was one of the leads in LOST
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:41 pm to LazloHollyfeld
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I’ve read every edition of Reader’s Digest, cover to cover, so...

Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:41 pm to AUCE05
I have been a voracious reader all my life,got first library card at 7,but I am in no way an intellectual.I’ve never read any of the classics.I read Tom Sawyer,Huckleberry Finn,Mobey Dick,Old Yeller.Bunch of Zane Gray,Louis L’amour,lots of nature and science.Reading has helped me a lot in life,trying to get my grandsons to read and cut down on the video games.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:00 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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things I consider the very foundation of our society.
Being honest, with the rapid changes in technology, how much value is this to you now?
Spending the same amount of time frequenting yourself with technological tools seems a better use of kids time these days. And Im not talking social media, Im talking time saving, money saving, labor saving, career advancing technological instruments
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:10 am to RobbBobb
I consider it valuable. It's a foundational ethic. Each has it's place, but knowing how to think and the why of things is equally as important as the how in my opinion.
Anyone can follow instructions, anyone can be taught to perform a task, but the ability to envision the entire process along with how each part is interconnected, can be adjusted and streamlined is the sign of mastery.
Reading and attempting to understand those authors/thinkers I mentioned helped me to do that.
From a slightly more recent author:
Anyone can follow instructions, anyone can be taught to perform a task, but the ability to envision the entire process along with how each part is interconnected, can be adjusted and streamlined is the sign of mastery.
Reading and attempting to understand those authors/thinkers I mentioned helped me to do that.
From a slightly more recent author:
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:11 am to RobbBobb
This is actually a really shitty take on what he is saying.
Want be an attorney?
You learn precedent, history, and the necessary Latin/Greek to graduate and join the Bar.
An environmental, mechanical, civil engineer?
You learn math.
IT engineer?
You learn coding and math.
A doctor?
You learn anatomy.
(I am making it terse, but you get the idea)
This all has a basis in classical education, and not knowing just “technology”.
Technology is a tool for learning.
Want be an attorney?
You learn precedent, history, and the necessary Latin/Greek to graduate and join the Bar.
An environmental, mechanical, civil engineer?
You learn math.
IT engineer?
You learn coding and math.
A doctor?
You learn anatomy.
(I am making it terse, but you get the idea)
This all has a basis in classical education, and not knowing just “technology”.
Technology is a tool for learning.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:31 am to Porkchop Express
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This is actually a really shitty take on what he is saying.
Maybe you and I didn't read the same OP. I took it as him focusing on consuming volumes of classical literature
Whereas, the kids of today are so much more advanced than we were, and could navigate life in their teens through the use of their fingertip technology, having read few of those books
Homeschoolers today tend to follow a classical education. And most are awkward as hell in todays norms
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:45 am to RobbBobb
In a way we are now on the same page.
I said classical education does not just equal a classical literature education.
However technology is a tool.
Do me a favor and tell me how many attorneys— Barred— you know who learned everything from just using technology and not a law school?
The internet is the printing press on steroids.
It’s not a solution to a solid foundational education of social studies, philosophy, mathematics, arts, biology, literature, linguistics, and religion (optional; you can replace this with ethics).
Might have missed something, but I am what I have learned.
I said classical education does not just equal a classical literature education.
However technology is a tool.
Do me a favor and tell me how many attorneys— Barred— you know who learned everything from just using technology and not a law school?
The internet is the printing press on steroids.
It’s not a solution to a solid foundational education of social studies, philosophy, mathematics, arts, biology, literature, linguistics, and religion (optional; you can replace this with ethics).
Might have missed something, but I am what I have learned.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:45 am to RobbBobb
Most of the homeschool kids I know are remarkably adept, well read and remarkably mature for their age. Of course, that can be a result of their parents taking an active role in their education rather than allowing the state to take care of it.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:59 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Good point, but how adept are home schooled raised in a classical world?
I think most home schooling is done for personal, and sometimes, valid reasons.
However eventually they will deal with classically trained people.
Right parent(s) equals the right educational curriculum.
Generally that are parents that are classically trained but don’t believe their kids are getting classically educated.
I think most home schooling is done for personal, and sometimes, valid reasons.
However eventually they will deal with classically trained people.
Right parent(s) equals the right educational curriculum.
Generally that are parents that are classically trained but don’t believe their kids are getting classically educated.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:11 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I educated myself on the classics more than any class or schooling did.
We have access to them with libraries and now the internet. No excuse for ignorance
We have access to them with libraries and now the internet. No excuse for ignorance
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