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re: How would you handle the arrest of this woman?

Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:58 pm to
That's not the only definition ascribed to on the hook. You really didnt give it any more thought than that? Yes, it can mean to owe money, but also to be caught up in a bad situation or to be responsible for something. Feel free to look it up if you dont believe me.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:03 pm to
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Then you know the police departments insurance company is going to settle on this long before it hits a courtroom

Unless plaintiff is unbending and insists on an amount they dont agree with right? Or unless plaintiff's demand is based on medical evidence that defendants believe to non-credible. It's really no different in theory than any personal injury or negligence litigation. Same concepts.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:06 pm to
Yeah cause the class of attorneys that would persue this type of case are more worried about being briefly embarrassed in court, having their sterling reputations smudged rather than the dollars involved.

You really didn't give it any more thought than that?

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Feel free to look it up if you dont believe me.


No need. I think I got this.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35095 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:25 pm to
Your class of attorneys commentary lines up with your opinion on the arrest, that's fair. I think it's flawed, but that's my opinion.

And I shouldt have added the gratuitous "didnt give it any more thought than that" remark. Unnecessary and unproductive in legit discussion/debate. **My bad.
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120147 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:27 pm to
All of that could have been avoided if she would have just complied. The officer wasn't being a dick or anything. She just got up and tried to leave. Not sure what this whole situation is about, but don't act like a spoiled brat and you will not get your lip busted.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11259 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:49 pm to
Everything is always someone else's fault and it's definitely never the belligerent drunks fault she couldn't comply with simple commands. It's the cops fault that she's drunk. Always.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:21 am to
A 3 year old is riding his tricycle down the sidewalk. This officer comes up and says to stop riding his tricycle on the sidewalk. The 3 year old continues.

By your logic, the cop can get out and crack his skull. That little bastard did not comply. It is all his fault. Not complying gives the cop full license to do whatever he feels like.

#guiltytoddlersmustbestopped
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:00 am to
If she gets paid because she resisted, then a dangerous precedent is being set for LEO's nationwide.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11114 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:17 am to
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A 3 year old is riding his tricycle down the sidewalk. This officer comes up and says to stop riding his tricycle on the sidewalk. The 3 year old continues. By your logic, the cop can get out and crack his skull. That little bastard did not comply. It is all his fault. Not complying gives the cop full license to do whatever he feels like.


Wow
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:21 am to
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She just got up and tried to leave.


You can see it on her face when she made the decision that - "You're not going to do anything to stop me" face and expression change.

However, once he grabbed her, she should have stopped right there. I agree it was unfortunate, especially since she apparently wasn't doing anything criminal (and certainly not felonious), but the cop doesn't know that yet. She had all the time in the world for him to sort it out with her bf/ex-husband, whatever.

She chose to escalate the situation. Her actions led to her injuries and she had a better chance to avoid them than he did. Now both of them could have done a bunch of things differently, and it should be a teaching point for the cop, as well. I don't think she should get paid, but probably will under the current climate.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:30 am to
That is dumbest argument I’ve ever read. Congrats
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:42 am to
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OweO
we know you wouldn't have walked away
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:03 am to
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Robinson’s report said due to Glass’ active resistance and aggression, he conducted a leg sweep to her right leg


Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45409 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:52 am to
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That is dumbest argument I’ve ever read. Congrats


Read back a few pages. It is equivalent to that dumb arse saying it is cool for a cop to arm bar, then sweep the leg of a tiny woman since she began to walk away while texting.

He cracked her head, causing a split lip and brain damage. This is not okay to treat someone that way. She was bitchy, but not violent.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:18 am to
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Why didn’t she conform to his commands?


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conform to his commands?


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conform
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:35 am to
quote:

A 3 year old is riding his tricycle down the sidewalk. This officer comes up and says to stop riding his tricycle on the sidewalk. The 3 year old continues.

By your logic, the cop can get out and crack his skull. That little bastard did not comply. It is all his fault. Not complying gives the cop full license to do whatever he feels like.

#guiltytoddlersmustbestopped

This is all kinds of stupid.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:43 am to
A head slam into concrete can easily kill someone.

Would those in support of this cops tactics be saying the same thing had she died? His actions could have easily caused such.

Then consider the fact she was not charged with the crime the cop assumed she had committed.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69650 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 11:13 am to
Is there a problem?


Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4006 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 11:21 am to
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Then consider the fact she was not charged with the crime the cop assumed she had committed.


Bucky, the only debatable issue here is whether the use of force was excessive. The fact that she was not charged with the crime he was investigating is irrelevant.

It was reasonable considering the circumstances (witnesses observed a perceived crime in which she was identified as the perpetrator) for her to be detained. It was also reasonable for the officer to make an arrest after she refused to cooperate and attempted to leave.



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Would those in support of this cops tactics be saying the same thing had she died? His actions could have easily caused such.


But she didn’t die and his inaction could have caused harm also. We can play the “What If” scenario all day. What if he allowed her to leave and she ended up killing somebody while drunk behind the wheel? What if she was psycho and retrieved a gun from her car after leaving and came back to the apartment?
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6807 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 12:17 pm to
This video made me sad, regardless of who did what. It is a shame to see a young person with a life so messed up it comes to this. Hope she gets some help
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