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Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:47 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:not you're not
ou're a shitty human being if someone holds a position open for you for months and you frick them over.
you have to look out for yourself
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:50 pm to Babble
The way I see it, the company could "downsize yet rehire" at anytime, and their loyalty is going to go to the best candidate. Job seekers should have the same attitude. Your bank account is a fricking balance sheet, do what is necessary to keep it on the better side of you.
ETA: I am guilty of working a long internship for an offer and after getting it shopping it around. It was very beneficial to me. They came strong, but not strong enough.
ETA: I am guilty of working a long internship for an offer and after getting it shopping it around. It was very beneficial to me. They came strong, but not strong enough.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:51 pm to Babble
This thread would be more entertaining if you phrased it as trashy vs non trashy.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:52 pm to Babble
Take a job with both companies
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:53 pm to Babble
You're an idiot if you don't keep interviewing.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:53 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
You're a shitty human being if someone holds a position open for you for months and you frick them over.
Lulz. Would they be a shitty company/people if they missed some bids for work the next year, you passed over another offer to work for them, and the company you went with laid you off?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:54 pm to Babble
That company already has people lined up case things don’t work out for you so you don’t really owe them anything. You’re not that important so do you.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:57 pm to Babble
The company I went to work for straight out of college hired most of their new grads during the fall recruiting cycle - so students graduating in May accepted offers in September-October timeframe. The year I graduated, the company got a little overzealous hiring for one particular division as they expected a big change in market conditions the following year.
Well, when spring rolled around, market conditions did not turn out to change as the company expected. The company decided to lay off 150 new engineers nationwide before their start dates. They notified the prospective employees in April, one month before graduation.
Not sure of your field, but if it’s engineering you know that the big corporations basically have two recruiting cycles per year - one in early fall and one in early spring. These students were forced to either wait another 6 months for the next recruiting cycle or try and find someone (mostly small local companies, usually not great starting gigs) who were hiring at an abnormal time of the year.
Long story short, don’t think for a second that the big corporations wouldn’t do the exact same thing to you if it were in their best interests.
Well, when spring rolled around, market conditions did not turn out to change as the company expected. The company decided to lay off 150 new engineers nationwide before their start dates. They notified the prospective employees in April, one month before graduation.
Not sure of your field, but if it’s engineering you know that the big corporations basically have two recruiting cycles per year - one in early fall and one in early spring. These students were forced to either wait another 6 months for the next recruiting cycle or try and find someone (mostly small local companies, usually not great starting gigs) who were hiring at an abnormal time of the year.
Long story short, don’t think for a second that the big corporations wouldn’t do the exact same thing to you if it were in their best interests.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:57 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
You're a shitty human being if someone holds a position open for you for months and you frick them over.
False. Was in the same situation, college internship - Company A- offered me full time the summer before I graduated (Was still working there until then though). Decided I didn’t want to live there anymore, accepted a position in another city prior to graduating, with Company B, then got called by another company in that city with a better offer and took it - Company C. Biggest thing is honesty and manning up. If you change your mind give them your honest reasoning. I told my boss at company A I wanted to move to where my SO was living and I knew they didn’t have any openings in that office. Told company B I got offered more money and if they could match it I would accept.
Later down the road a position opened up with Company A in the city I had moved to and ended up working with them again.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:58 pm to Morty
You are currently in an internship and got offered a full time position with them? Or you have never worked for them yet?
How soon is your deadline before graduation?
How soon is your deadline before graduation?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:12 pm to Babble
Many companies only keep positions open for two weeks. It's why I always have more than one candidate chosen for a position and announce just before the two weeks has expired. I would just move on to the next candidate from you when reaching the end of the two week period.
If you were to accept when the two week period had ended and the hiring process was underway then you would definitely get flagged in the system because the process has to start all over again with HR before I could hire the next candidate.
If you were to accept when the two week period had ended and the hiring process was underway then you would definitely get flagged in the system because the process has to start all over again with HR before I could hire the next candidate.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:26 pm to lostinbr
Wtf? What kind of engineering do you do because it sure as hell isn't like that in the industrial side of things. Hire all the damn time.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:34 pm to lostinbr
I knew alot of Houston office Anderson offer holders.
Hey Enron no big deal just going to start you a little later is how it started.
Hey Enron no big deal just going to start you a little later is how it started.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:40 pm to lsu777
Not sure what you mean by “industrial” - that’s a pretty broad term. But I’m strictly talking about new graduate hiring. Most of the Fortune 500 type companies I know of only recruit new graduates through on-campus interviewing, which is cyclical.
If you think about it, most of the Fortune 500’s are hiring “classes”, not just filling req’s. New engineering grads can require months or years of training before they are proficient in whatever field they actually go into. These companies typically have structured training programs so it makes sense from that standpoint.
Experienced hires are obviously an entirely different deal.
If you think about it, most of the Fortune 500’s are hiring “classes”, not just filling req’s. New engineering grads can require months or years of training before they are proficient in whatever field they actually go into. These companies typically have structured training programs so it makes sense from that standpoint.
Experienced hires are obviously an entirely different deal.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:41 pm to Babble
quote:
How unprofessional is it to keep interviewing after accepting an offer?
depends on the total situation, really. one simple question for you....how unprofessional is it if they keep interviewing candidates in hopes of finding a better candidate that they can bump you for.
answer that question and you have the answer to your original question.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:44 pm to Babble
Just don't get caught -- you could lose your offer.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:46 pm to Babble
You're your own boss whether you run a business or not.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:52 am to lostinbr
quote:
Not sure what you mean by “industrial” - that’s a pretty broad term. But I’m strictly talking about new graduate hiring. Most of the Fortune 500 type companies I know of only recruit new graduates through on-campus interviewing, which is cyclical.
If you think about it, most of the Fortune 500’s are hiring “classes”, not just filling req’s. New engineering grads can require months or years of training before they are proficient in whatever field they actually go into. These companies typically have structured training programs so it makes sense from that standpoint.
Experienced hires are obviously an entirely different deal.
I am referring to companies that deal in engineering in the petro chemical plants.
I just don't agree with you at all. And i am an engineer and do a lot of the hiring. I guess maybe in the big civil firms that handle roads it might be like that, but I know it wasn't like this a few years ago as they were still hiring in april and may. same with DOTD.
Almost every firm I know of hires as needed to replace or grow, they do not hire "classes". Same with the plants that I have been around.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:33 am to Babble
Their offer is contingent on drug screen and background check; your acceptance is contingent on best offer.
If I'm the new company, I'd rather you do it now than in 90 days
If I'm the new company, I'd rather you do it now than in 90 days
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