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How to win the lottery, according to a Romanian-born mathematician who won 14 times

Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:19 pm
Want to win the lottery? Here is how someone did it 14 times

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Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery:
Calculate the total number of possible combinations. (For a lottery that requires you to pick six numbers from 1 to 40, that means 3,838,380 combinations.)
Find lotteries where the jackpot is three times or more the number of possible combinations.
Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)
Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)
Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.
Win the cash. And don't forget to pay your investors. (Mandel pocketed $97,000 after a $1.3 million win in 1987.)
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40453 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:20 pm to
Does this account for multiple winners splitting top prize?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98157 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
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Raise enough cash to pay for each combination. (Mandel rounded up 2,524 investors for his push to win the Virginia lottery.)
Print out millions of tickets with every combination. (This used to be legal. Now you would have to buy the tickets right from the store.)
Deliver the tickets to authorized lottery dealers.


This seems simple.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65703 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:22 pm to
and depend on the person holding the winning ticket to not take the money and run
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94994 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
The odds in MegaMillions are 1 in 302,575,350, meaning you need roughly a $1b payout for it to pay off.

Powerball’s odds are comparable at about 1 in 292,201,338.
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:23 pm to
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This seems simple.



Get a bank to loan you the money. It will pay off at the end.
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:24 pm to
People have been banned from casinos for knowing these tricks and combinations
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3126 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:24 pm to
And hope someone else doesn't win at the same time and you have to split it. Oops.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4750 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:25 pm to
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The odds of winning the jackpot are 1 in 292.2 million


So at $2, I would need to spend $584.4 million for every combination. Seems doable.
Posted by ODoyleRulez
Member since Apr 2011
958 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:27 pm to
That’s odds on a single ticket. How
Many number combinations are there. If you buy one of every combo you will win. Cost is dependent on how high the numbers and how many.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94994 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:31 pm to
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That’s odds on a single ticket. How Many number combinations are there.


The odds on a single ticket ARE the number of possible combinations out there minus some unseen frickery.

A daily numbers drawing of three digits from 0 to 9 would be 10^3 or 10*10*10, as getting every combination means tickets for 000 through 999, which is 1000 combinations.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:34 pm to
If there are 300m possible combinations and IF you could pre complete all of these numbers onto tickets…..you’d have to run 500 per second for a full week 24/7 to get them all printed….at a cost of $600m dollars.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8153 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Does this account for multiple winners splitting top prize?


No. That’s the hiccup. You’re not guaranteed the whole jackpot.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25466 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:42 pm to
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The odds in MegaMillions are 1 in 302,575,350, meaning you need roughly a $1b payout for it to pay off.




First of all, that means you have to find $600M to buy all the combinations. Then you have to actually buy 300M tickets. That's impossible.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12642 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Here's the 6-step formula for how Mandel managed to make serious cash from the lottery:


Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4826 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:49 pm to
None of this takes into account multiple winners. When the jackpots get high enough to make this viable there are also more people playing and usually ith high jackpots you will have multiple winner. If that happened you would be sunk.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6277 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:51 pm to
I know the secret buy all of the tickets.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70129 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:54 pm to
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No. That’s the hiccup. You’re not guaranteed the whole jackpot.


You're also going to collect a shite ton of smaller wins along the way as well.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110737 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:56 pm to
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None of this takes into account multiple winners. When the jackpots get high enough to make this viable there are also more people playing and usually ith high jackpots you will have multiple winner. If that happened you would be sunk.

This is obviously a risk, but I'd guess if you do it enough times with your investors, you should be positive EV, even factoring in those losses.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25466 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:57 pm to
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None of this takes into account multiple winners.


That's why he says it has to be 3x's the possible combinations.
that seems like it is taking into account for one other winner you have to share with, as well as taxes.
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