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re: How to save a town
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:25 am to NOLALGD
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:25 am to NOLALGD
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Last, you need people to live in the middle of town to support local places. In small towns that are dying all of the people live in subdivisions on the edge/outside of town. A small town should have a at least a few restaurants/shops/stores people can walk to. In other words, you have to build from the inside out.
This is the issue. These older towns have old houses built a long time ago when codes were less so they were built smaller and shittier. Then add in 3-5 decades of abstention of taking care of them. Basically you're in a complete tear down and rebuild scenario.
It's just not efficient or economical in a dying area without the ability to improve. That sort of personal investment is better made in a better area.
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St. Francisville is a small town and Covington is a small city that looks to be doing ok.
Suburbs. They shouldn't be in this discussion.
But, those areas ARE the ones worth investing in I referenced earlier in my thread.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:26 am to member12
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Has to be organic
It really does. That doesn't mean that steps can't be taken to set the wheels in motion but sustainable change comes about organically, not through legislation or overt actions like providing free cash to people or businesses without some expectations tied to the cash.
Someone else mentioned it but cleaning up local politics to the point that folks will call the police when they see something instead of simply turning the other way to avoid interacting with the cops. Cleaning up zoning abuses and making them more manageable would help.
The main thing is that local people must be willing to accept change and new ideas. Thats a tough pill to swallow for anyone but if your area is dying what has worked in the past is no longer working. Some new ideas may hasten the areas demise but they may also reverse the trend.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:26 am to Odysseus32
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How do you save a dying Louisiana town?
You let it die, thats how the world evolves and improves.
Saving a dying town just means youre putting an unsustainable amount of effort into keeping something alive that no one really wants.
Same with our cities. frick em. Let them die and new ones take their place.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 6:27 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 6:29 am to Odysseus32
1) set up a shelter
2) take in homeless in exchange for their vote
3) become mayor
4) change your salary
5) make the town do whatever you want
2) take in homeless in exchange for their vote
3) become mayor
4) change your salary
5) make the town do whatever you want
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is the issue. These older towns have old houses built a long time ago when codes were less so they were built smaller and shittier. Then add in 3-5 decades of abstention of taking care of them. Basically you're in a complete tear down and rebuild scenario.
Good point. You need some people/families with money that can update/rebuild older houses in town. Having strong historic district rules really helps.
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St. Francisville is a small town and Covington is a small city that looks to be doing ok.
Suburbs. They shouldn't be in this discussion.
Without a major metro area or city nearby (within 50-60 miles max) its really hard to sustain/grow small towns/cities these days.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:11 am to HempHead
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I tried to do the opposite - save a town from rampant development with no appreciation for anything except growth for its own sake. I failed. So, I go searching for more windmills.
I appreciate the sentiment. Its my mission to vitalize where I live by building beautiful houses that retain the old south charm. I also want to expand downtown one day into something really beautiful that retains the charm it already has.
To answer OPs question, you build beautiful things that people want to see and live near. Its simplistic but true. It also requires money and effort
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:27 am to Odysseus32
When means of livelihood goes away the town is doomed. Tullos had forest and oil fields and was thriving. Now it's the saddest town one sees.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:29 am to Odysseus32
Someone has read BRAC's "lipstick on a pig" plan for BR.
Until you address:
Traffic
Crime
Public schools
Businesses that would offer jobs to those young professionals to keep them here will NEVER come to BR.
There's a reason Albemarle bailed out to Charlotte.
Until you address:
Traffic
Crime
Public schools
Businesses that would offer jobs to those young professionals to keep them here will NEVER come to BR.
There's a reason Albemarle bailed out to Charlotte.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:42 am to Long Ball Larry
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Ask Youngsville
Install 99 round-a-bouts?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:46 am to Odysseus32
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How do you save a dying Louisiana town? Typical problems such as crime, brain drain, lack of employment opportunities.
You become like Wilson Ark and have a billionaire buy most of it and pour tons of money into it
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:48 am to AwgustaDawg
Yes, because it was completely organic how jobs were shipped overseas while extensive white collar protections were forced into law.


Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:52 am to nugget
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Thousands of people are moving there from New York and California.
So Hornbeck has fallen. New Llano would be more fitting for folks from California or New York; it started as a socialist commune.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:55 am to soccerfüt
That second pic is Avenue F
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:03 am to Odysseus32
You could ask a celebrity to buy it.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to Odysseus32
Teach universal moral principles from K-12 and provide excellent reasoning for why when the students question it.
Think CS Lewis's The Abolition of Man.
Make philosophy a mandatory high school course and have someone teach it who is over the top passionate about it.
9th grade - intro to philosophy
10th grade - political philosophy
11th grade - epistomology
12th grade - moral philosophy
This would take a lot of effort on behalf of the adults in the room.
Think CS Lewis's The Abolition of Man.
Make philosophy a mandatory high school course and have someone teach it who is over the top passionate about it.
9th grade - intro to philosophy
10th grade - political philosophy
11th grade - epistomology
12th grade - moral philosophy
This would take a lot of effort on behalf of the adults in the room.
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