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re: How the HELL is Troy H. Middleton a reminder of a racist past?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:01 am to Havoc
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:01 am to Havoc
A big part of black culture is putting their lowest common denominator on pedostals. This is an observation by Shelby Steele, and he's right.
I'd amend it and say in addition to glorifying their dregs, they also destroy the legacies of others who aren't black.
I'd amend it and say in addition to glorifying their dregs, they also destroy the legacies of others who aren't black.
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:02 am to shawnlsu
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I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the black and white races -- that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making VOTERS or jurors of negroes, NOR OF QUALIFYING THEM HOLD OFFICE, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any of her man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." - Abraham Lincoln
Burn your money, tear down the memorial, and forget everything Lincoln ever did because he was a racist.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:25 am to Mike da Tigah
Op asked a question and I answered
quote:not true
He said some shite everyone else said during The 50’s
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:25 am to sanora
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he was a segregationist
BLM is a segregationist movement.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:27 am to GreatLakesTiger24
as wrong as that is. we continually look at history through 2020 eyes.....
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:28 am to AHM21
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OP was clearly blind to the truth. Jesus.
What are your thoughts on Abraham Lincoln?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:32 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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not true
Yeah, actually it pretty much is, but we allowed people to grow and adapt their views, because people change and modify their positions as they go in life. Nobody justifies those quotes, but perspective is needed when applying 21st century values to 1950’s or even 1850’s realities.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:44 am to LordSaintly
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Yikes
LG, one cannot read that with a 2020 mindset. That was 60 fricking years ago. Hell, segregation was the law. General Middleton wasn't making policy, he was enforcing policy that the folks with money and power over the university wanted.
And it was a transition period. You can't have a segregated school on Friday, and then Monday have everybody all up in everything.
So, having said all of that, "Yikes" indeed.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:47 am to Breesus
Every white person in history was an a-hole. And every descendant of white people is a piece of shite. I know this because extremely woke white people have told me this.
"frick white people" -white people
"frick white people" -white people
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
I read the letter. I lived through those days and I know how times were then. At the time, he was would have been hated in the white community because he was not acting like George Wallace and trying to stand in the door trying to block access. And strangely enough, back then saying things like black people needed to be judged by their character and not their skin was considered controversial. People who thought differently were afraid to speak up. I find it amazing that people who want to rid us of racism are often the most hateful. Demanding that people be punished for something as simple as saying that all lives matter is insane. At some point society needs to tell the children NO. The Middleton library situation is a good place to start.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:56 am to Havoc
I don’t think anyone cared what they called the library until this week. If they had made an announcement a month ago that they were changing the library name to “The Tiger Book Depository,” no one would have been upset. But now that we know Middleton wrote in defense of segregation? Outrage! How dare they erase history!
The sudden appearance of Middleton lovers is ridiculous. None of them cared at all about Middleton until they learned he was a segregationist. Now they have taken to him as a symbol of the glorious past.
Buildings sometimes get renamed. Get over it.
The sudden appearance of Middleton lovers is ridiculous. None of them cared at all about Middleton until they learned he was a segregationist. Now they have taken to him as a symbol of the glorious past.
Buildings sometimes get renamed. Get over it.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:01 am to TBoy
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I don’t think anyone cared what they called the library until this week. If they had made an announcement a month ago that they were changing the library name to “The Tiger Book Depository,” no one would have been upset. But now that we know Middleton wrote in defense of segregation? Outrage! How dare they erase history!
The sudden appearance of Middleton lovers is ridiculous. None of them cared at all about Middleton until they learned he was a segregationist. Now they have taken to him as a symbol of the glorious past.
Buildings sometimes get renamed. Get over it.
Your caregiver or whoever looks after your affairs needs to get you off the internet. You constantly embarrass yourself.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:10 am to TBoy
It isn't the fact of being renamed, it is the reason. If LSU had decided to rename the building after some other more distinguished graduate or person connected with the school, it would not have met as much resistance -- although I still would feel that General Middleton was a great American and naming a building in his honor is and was appropriate. The pandering to people who are filled with hate is the problem.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:15 am to DaTruth7
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Right, and those were the conversations leaders of schools were having back then. It wasn't simple as let's integrate and poof.
Or, you know, tearing down a statue and/or changing the name of a building.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:24 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Lmfao open and shut
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:24 am to Ace Midnight
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And it was a transition period. You can't have a segregated school on Friday, and then Monday have everybody all up in everything.
Dude, I read it as a man doing what he could and needed to do to prevent rioting.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:29 am to Havoc
Lil Boosie Library
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:32 am to Ace Midnight
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This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:35 am to DaTruth7
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Right, and those were the conversations leaders of schools were having back then. It wasn't simple as let's integrate and poof. There was a lot of bs to navigate. One letter in god knows whatever context. Shouldn't tarnish a legacy. Stop being a pansy.
The words he wrote weren't words of someone trying to figure out a path in a changing world. They were the words of someone who not only didn't want the world to change, but wanted to continue a path of oppression.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:41 am to Mike da Tigah
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Nobody justifies those quotes, but perspective is needed when applying 21st century values to 1950’s or even 1850’s realities.
We are talking 1960, not 1860.
By 1960, everyone damn well knew what was right and what was wrong. They just chose to keep doing the wrong things, because they were afraid of giving up power.
Middleton wasn't some country hick, he was a damn 3-star general. By 1960, people in positions of power and influence, which he clearly was, were being intentional. Maybe it was to save his own hide / serve the BOS (or whatever it was called back then), but again, being a leader means being able to do the right things, not follow along with the wrong things.
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