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re: How police took $53,000 from a Christian band, an orphanage, and a church

Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:52 pm to
The war on Christianity continues....
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:53 pm to
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they brought out a drug-sniffing dog, which alerted on the car.


Such bullshite, they train them to false alert. Should be considered animal cruelty and abolished.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:53 pm to
It's just pigs being pigs. But they are here to protect you and you should give them raises and respect.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15293 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:54 pm to
Didn't Tennessee recently pass a law, basically making it ok to steal from anyone who has large sum of cash on them.


Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15293 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:57 pm to
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It's just pigs being pigs


U do realize, that the cops, individually get none of that cash, right?

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Such bullshite, they train them to false alert. Should be considered animal cruelty and abolished.


You should look up Lex the drug dog- with a 90+% hit rate on "finding" drugs.

WashPo

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U.S. v. Bentley, we see just how damaging the Harris decision really was. Lex, the drug dog that searched Bentley’s car, had a 93 percent alert rate. That is, when Lex was called to search a car, he alerted 93 percent of the time. He was basically a probable cause generator. 
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:58 pm to
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This has everything to do with State and local politicians, and finding ways to steal money from their people, on the basis of trying to stop drugs and drug money. They use the Police as their collectors, and thus all the heat comes on Cops, not at the politicians who push this.


I'm not convinced it's that complicated. I'm inclined to believe that the local PD just has a giant hard on for busting people for drugs. I think these cops are so stupid that they think what they are doing is righteous.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Didn't Tennessee recently pass a law, basically making it ok to steal from anyone who has large sum of cash on them.


Not sure, but there are a ton of protocols and headaches that get in the way when trying to carry/use that much cash. The biggest issue is tax evasion/money laundering, not really proceeds from drugs, but that reason is brought up the most because it gets the most public support.

Personally, the tax evasion is the part that frustrates me the most, but from a macro standpoint, the "guilty until proven innocent" characteristic of civil asset forfeiture is abhorrent. I've argued in these threads before that I believe it happens to bad people more often than not, but it doesn't make it right.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79737 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 2:59 pm to
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U do realize, that the cops, individually get none of that cash, right?


Well of course they have to share.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:01 pm to
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do realize, that the cops, individually get none of that cash, right?



That's not exactly true- a lot of places get their salaries from "drug seizures", also bonuses are sometimes paid to officers that have the most seizures.

Sure you could say they aren't paid directly, but the money seized often goes to either the DA or toward the next year's budget. Hell last year there were stories of Oklahoma DA's driving around town in seized vehicles, using forfeiture funds to pay off law school loans, and finally DA's living out of seized homes indefinitely . It's pretty crooked.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:03 pm to
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All things considered, I doubt he had a broken tail light




Probably right. Apparently that kind of sarcasm doesn't go over well unless you're LucasP.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:04 pm to
But what about allllllllllll the good cops
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15293 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:04 pm to
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That's not exactly true- a lot of places get their salaries from "drug seizures", also bonuses are sometimes paid to officers that have the most seizures.


these, are places that shouldn't have a Police force and should have City/County/State take over.

If you cannot support your PD, with City money, then you need to let some one else take over.

Ur example is how this really can get ugly. Hell, u could have tellers tip off the cops. etc
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:04 pm to
So if you carry a lot of cash, who is more likely to steal it? The law or a criminal?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:05 pm to
this isn't a good cop/bad cop situation

this is a "bad policy" situation caused by expansive government. government is bad, m'kay
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40322 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:05 pm to
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they brought out a drug-sniffing dog, which alerted on the car.


When do they not?


I bet 75% of Americans think drug dogs are infallible.



"Remember when Lassie saved little Timmy in the well? There ya go!".
Posted by sandraccoon
In the middle of nowhere
Member since Apr 2013
1545 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:06 pm to
I brought 30k with me to Laffy a few weeks back to purchase a car. Let's not act like only drug dealers carry around large amounts of cash
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:10 pm to
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this isn't a good cop/bad cop situation

this is a "bad policy" situation caused by expansive government. government is bad, m'kay


what bad policy? This was a likely racist cop(s) bullying and stealing money from a guy.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:10 pm to
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Hell, u could have tellers tip off the cops. etc


Actually that happens too. It's actually required by law now I believe. Here's a different incident...

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The federal agents then showed McLellan paperwork that included deposits to the store’s account at Lumbee Guaranty Bank. The statements showed two deposits made within a 24-hour period totaling $11,400.

The statements, they said, indicated he had a history of consistent cash deposits of less than $10,000, which is illegal.

Then, the agents told the small business owner something that shook him to his core: The Internal Revenue Service had seized all of the money in L&M’s bank account: $107,702.66.

“‘Are you telling me you took my money?’” McLellan recalled asking the agents. “I didn’t understand what was going on. They dropped a bomb on me. I was lost for five to 10 minutes. I can’t believe that y’all guys can walk in here and tell me y’all took every bit of my money out of the bank.”

After law enforcement cleared McLellan’s store, he drove to Lumbee Guaranty Bank. The agents had been there hours earlier and emptied his account, McLellan recalled, walking out of the building with a cashier’s check





LINK
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:10 pm to
He shouldn't have acted suspiciously. If that wasn't drug money why did the police take it? I'm going to wait until I hear both sides of this story.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 3:11 pm
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