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re: How old do you believe the Earth is?
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:14 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:14 pm to GetCocky11
If the age of earth was a year, humans have been in it for 23 minutes. Great Job so far Humans!
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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4.5 billion years it's not a matter of belief We know for a fact that the earth is around that age because that is how old the space rock that was from same disc of material from which earth formed
It’s actually embarrassing how little we know about the universe, physics, and even the world. Speaking in absolutes about something like this is asinine. There’s a lot of educated guesses out there with little proof.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:23 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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If you assume the universe was not created and assume everything has been happening without any intervention from outside the natural system (supernatural forces), then you arrive at however many billions of years that gets you.
If the universe was created, then the above assumption and the extrapolation backwards for billions of years is based on a flawed premise.
Ok I will play. Let us assume God created earth (Which I believe, but is neither here nor there for this purpose). Also let us assume this was 6000 years ago in our current scientific definition of Time.
If at that moment in time 6000 years ago, he created an Earth that was 4.8 billion years old, wouldn't the earth now be 4.8 billion + 6000 years old?
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I am playing devils advocate with creationists. In no way do I believe the Earth is 6000 years old.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:23 pm to texag7
Obviously it's 2022 years old
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:24 pm to texag7
Old enough to legally get fricked.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:32 pm to Rebel
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can you show me one picture of this "round earth" that isn't CGI or Photoshopped? Just 1.
It's just rising now. Keep watching, you'll see it form a perfect circle:
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:34 pm to texag7
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Do you believe 6,000-10,000 years?
6,000 - 10,000 times what?
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:34 pm to Basura Blanco
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Ok I will play. Let us assume God created earth (Which I believe, but is neither here nor there for this purpose). Also let us assume this was 6000 years ago in our current scientific definition of Time.
If at that moment in time 6000 years ago, he created an Earth that was 4.8 billion years old, wouldn't the earth now be 4.8 billion + 6000 years old?
Why would something newly created be 4.8 billion years old? Sounds like an attempt to merge two conflicting view points, a literal understanding of the history provided in the Bible and naturalists trying to explain our existence by extrapolating backwards.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:36 pm to td1
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Fun fact the sun has about 5 billion years of usable fuel left, but you don’t have to worry about that bc it will expand well into earths orbit before then and suck the earth into a death spiral towards the center of the sun where it will be vaporized. So, at least we have that going for us.
The bolded part is 100% false.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:38 pm to The Pirate King
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t’s actually embarrassing how little we know about the universe, physics, and even the world. Speaking in absolutes about something like this is asinine. There’s a lot of educated guesses out there with little proof.
Speaking scientifically, nothing is ever true beyond a shadow of a doubt. However, to call a lot of things we know about physics, the universe, and the earth educated guesses is extremely disingenuous. Einstein's theory of relativity is just that, a theory. The fact that is has yet to be proven wrong tells us its a lot more than an educated guess.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:43 pm to Philzilla2k
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4.603 billion years, same age as the Sun.
Bolded part isn't true. Earth formed after the sun. The sun needed to spark to life and the solar wind had to push out all the water to the snow line, which allowed the rocky inner solar system to come together as planets. Not to mention there were millions of years where planets where colliding and reforming before earth as we know it now existed.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:48 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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Why would something newly created be 4.8 billion years old? Sounds like an attempt to merge two conflicting view points, a literal understanding of the history provided in the Bible and naturalists trying to explain our existence by extrapolating backwards.
To be clear, I am personally not trying to merge anything, and personally believe current scientific data supporting the theory that Earth is ~4-5 billion years old.
I was only stating that, as a Christian, its seems the very extreme height of hubris would be to factually assert ANYTHING concerning the details of what God created or has plans to create.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:53 pm to Basura Blanco
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Einstein's theory of relativity is just that, a theory. The fact that is has yet to be proven wrong tells us its a lot more than an educated guess.
And GPS wouldn't work if Einstein's theories weren't taken into account.
Clocks run faster in weaker gravitational fields and satellites feel weaker gravity than on the earth's surface because they are farther away.
But clocks on satellites also run slower than those on the ground because they are in motion relative to the ground. This is due to time dilation.
So when all of this is calculated, there is a 38 microsecond difference, which sounds like nothing but would start causing an error calculating location after only 2 minutes and the error would multiply from there.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:59 pm to Basura Blanco
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To be clear, I am personally not trying to merge anything, and personally believe current scientific data supporting the theory that Earth is ~4-5 billion years old.
I was only stating that, as a Christian, its seems the very extreme height of hubris would be to factually assert ANYTHING concerning the details of what God created or has plans to create.
A Christian, who believes that Jesus came to earth to die as a sacrifice for sin, who believes that death is the direct result of sin, beginning with Adam, would have a very hard time reconciling millions of years of animals living and dying before the first sin ever occurred.
As far as hubris, a Christian would merely be basing his viewpoint on what God revealed in the Bible. God says he created it, how is it hubris to believe it? God provided for the genealogy all the way back to Adam; where’s the hubris in adding up those lifetimes?
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:05 pm to texag7
Does "believe" enable one to ignore radiometric dating?
If so, I say Earth is as old as I am. Not a day older.
If so, I say Earth is as old as I am. Not a day older.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:07 pm to texag7
1.pretty old
2.kinda old
3.I don't remember
2.kinda old
3.I don't remember
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:07 pm to texag7
2022 years old. It’s the year 2022, dumbass
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:09 pm to Turf Taint
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Does "believe" enable one to ignore radiometric dating?
Sure, anyone should be able to understand the concept that radiometric dating starts with the assumption that we can extrapolate backwards and that nothing supernatural, such as a creation event, happened in the meantime.
It’s all about the assumptions you start with.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:11 pm to td1
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Fun fact the sun has about 5 billion years of usable fuel left, but you don’t have to worry about that bc it will expand well into earths orbit before then and suck the earth into a death spiral towards the center of the sun where it will be vaporized. So, at least we have that going for us.
You knows it’s kind of funny to think that the biblical apocalypse ends with a lake of fire. So even if you don’t believe in God, technically they are still correct. When the earth ends, it will in fact be by a lake of fire.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:28 pm to Basura Blanco
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what God created or has plans to create.
You think God has a "plan"?
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