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re: How much is Jeep paying for positive coverage of the 2018 Wrangler?

Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:54 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:54 am to
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So now it is including an engine that doesn't exist and what other options?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37424 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:05 am to
I've been driving my rubicon for years. Not sure if they make them like mine anymore. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. I know they are pretty luxurious now and are even auto transmission.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:11 am to
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That 4.0 inline six was a beast

That's whats in my 2001 Sport. 122K miles and have never had any issues. I've had it since brand new and it was my everyday vehicle for about 6 years...which accounted for the first 100K. I think I paid about 18K for it, the only "luxury" item I wanted was a CD player
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:31 pm to
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No it doesnt. in fact they(Hemis) fit perfectly in the current models. LS motors fit even better. Only major obstetrical is they use different engine mounts. I have a 6.4 in my JK.


You change some parts on the V8 and I'll do the same on the current 6 and then we can talk.

Maintenance is far easier with the new Pentastar, easier still with the 4.0L I6 and it's a far better platform for what the Jeep was designed for. There are actual reasons they used these setups. Anyone that doesn't understand this, or that can't figure out how to go anywhere with the new 6 or the older 4.0l engine, or even the old stock I6's on CJ's, doesn't know Jeeps or how to drive them.

The western U.S. was settled by people in wagons that weighed at least a ton, pulled by one or two horses. If you can't figure out how to go over similarly rough terrain in a modern vehicle with a couple hundred HP, then you're just retarded. This infatuation with putting V8's in Jeeps is nothing more than an excuse to waste money and show off ignorance.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Idk but it really sucks that such a once reliable and badass vehicle has fallen victim to Chrystler’s shitty way of building vehicles. The Jeep brand has suffered.



If Toyota built the Grand Cherokee, I'd have owned 5 by now
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:44 pm to
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You change some parts on the V8 and I'll do the same on the current 6 and then we can talk.

Maintenance is far easier with the new Pentastar, easier still with the 4.0L I6 and it's a far better platform for what the Jeep was designed for. There are actual reasons they used these setups. Anyone that doesn't understand this, or that can't figure out how to go anywhere with the new 6 or the older 4.0l engine, or even the old stock I6's on CJ's, doesn't know Jeeps or how to drive them.

The western U.S. was settled by people in wagons that weighed at least a ton, pulled by one or two horses. If you can't figure out how to go over similarly rough terrain in a modern vehicle with a couple hundred HP, then you're just retarded. This infatuation with putting V8's in Jeeps is nothing more than an excuse to waste money and show off ignorance.


Yes and No

A CJ, TJ, JK a V8 isn't needed provided it stays stock (no lift or tires), do not pull a trailer or loaded down with gear.

The CJ's had a the 304 V8 as an option, it was great.

But once you start modding, lifted w/ 35/38 inch tires loaded with gear and pulling a trailer, the I6 and V6 is working hard on the interstate especially with hills.

The V8 should be an option for the Wrangler point blank.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:51 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Maintenance is far easier with the new Pentastar,


Than the current Hemis? I am pretty sure its the same.

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. There are actual reasons they used these setups.


$$$ is the reason

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Anyone that doesn't understand this, or that can't figure out how to go anywhere with the new 6 or the older 4.0l engine, or even the old stock I6's on CJ's, doesn't know Jeeps or how to drive them.
Once you put larger tires on, you have to regear for these engines you list. A reasonable vehicle shouldnt have to have gearing above 5:1

The transmissions on the hemis are more stout as well.

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The western U.S. was settled by people in wagons that weighed at least a ton, pulled by one or two horses. If you can't figure out how to go over similarly rough terrain in a modern vehicle with a couple hundred HP, then you're just retarde


Yes comparing the accessibility of horses and cars is logical

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. This infatuation with putting V8's in Jeeps is nothing more than an excuse to waste money and show off ignorance.

oh there is some ignorance here, I'll let you find it
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:01 pm to
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But once you start modding, lifted w/ 35/38 inch tires loaded with gear and pulling a trailer, the I6 and V6 is working hard on the interstate especially with hills.

The V8 should be an option for the Wrangler point blank.


There is a reason why V8s and diesels rule the roost in the industry vs the v6 and i6 and it is where the torque is on the powerband and how much of it there is.

The gas 6's were chosen simply because of economical reasons
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4442 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:15 pm to
Which one of you Texas baws was out dinosaur hunting the other day?


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:25 pm to
Those JP YJ's were sweet.

The actual Tomb Raider TJ's, not the crappy appearance package, were awesome. The roll bar is the tits

Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19376 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:33 pm to
I wish Toyota would thake the Jeep design and make it better.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76162 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:35 pm to
2015 Jeep Trailhawk v6 with 2 inch lift is what I want. I can’t seem to find any.
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