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re: How much do partners at Big 4 Accounting Firms make?

Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:54 am to
Posted by GamerGod
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:54 am to
a child of mine is finishing a masters degree in accounting(taking cpa exam right after) at LSU with the upcoming spring semester as the last semester before obtaining a masters degree and as of this past summer has already accepted a full time position at E&Y(after working as an interne over the summer) starting in the 60k range to start in the fall of 2021. they also already paid for last semester in scholarship money. In the 5 to 7 years, the pay will become 6 figures.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:56 am to
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has already accepted a full time position at E&Y(after working as an interne over the summer) starting in the 60k range to start in the fall of 2021. they also already paid for last semester in scholarship money. In the 5 to 7 years, the pay will become 6 figures.



Congrats. Sounds like a hard-working child. However, I'm honestly a little shocked that the starting pay is so little, and that it would take so long to hit the six-figure mark.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by GamerGod
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:59 am to
yeah i had assumed more like 70 to 80k to start but this is what im being told. also will get aorund 4 or 5k to move also. as the years come in, the potential is in the millions as im being told. this is starting for audit work for large companies. now becoming a partner is big $$$$$
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:00 am to
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a child of mine is finishing a masters degree in accounting(taking cpa exam right after) with the upcoming spring semester as the last semester before obtaining a masters degree and as of this past summer has already accepted a full time position at E&Y(after working as an interne over the summer) starting in the 60k range to start in the fall of 2021. they also already paid for last semester in scholarship money. In the 5 to 7 years, the pay will become 6 figures.

What city? Total comp including benefits will probably total 6 figures, which sounds great, but the location is important context.

Sounds like he/she is doing it right, just hope they don’t get burned out.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:01 am to
This thread is mind blowing to me. I had no idea accountants were pulling 6 figures in mid 20s and doctor money by 40.
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Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:02 am to
They aren’t. Rose tinted glasses abound.
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:02 am to
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This thread is mind blowing to me. I had no idea accountants were pulling 6 figures in mid 20s and doctor money by 40.


By the doctor money time, they’ve already sold their soul.
Posted by GamerGod
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:03 am to
Dallas
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:05 am to
Yeah, then that’s about right, maybe slightly on the low side, for starting in that market. EY had some compensation issues this year, think they had a record year profits wise but annual raises were like 5% avg. Employees weren’t too pleased.

Dallas is pricey to live in and the salaries will reflect that, so I wouldn’t doubt 6 figures in 7 years if they’re good.
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:08 am to
The real issue here is how many will actually make partner. I have always had the impression that the Big 4 make relatively few partners.
Posted by Cocotheape
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:09 am to
Most aren’t.

If you do 4-5 years at big 4 and then go corporate that’s probably the fastest way to six figures.

That’s a very very small portion of the accounting world.

The doctor money is big 4 partners only (with a few exceptions, unless you are talking GP/family medicine doctor money). That is a incredibly small pool of people when compared to the entire profession
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:10 am to
Got a friend whose daughter (no pics) is one. She is in her late 30s now, but has been in the 6 figure range for well over a decade.

She is married to a guy in the same firm that made partner already. Their combined income is over 7 figures now. They live in St. Petersburg, but have a house in North Carolina as well.

No kids though and no plans of kids. They are all business.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:10 am to
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just hope they don’t get burned out.


Seems to be quite the grind.

Our most successful recruiting ground for associate level banking positions are the big 4 firms. We’ve hired a few people in the 26-28 year old age range who are burnt out and have to come to the conclusion that the partner track isn’t for them.

We like them because they work our ~50-55 hours a week expectations like it’s nothing
Posted by Sterling Archer
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:13 am to
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I had no idea accountants were pulling 6 figures in mid 20s and doctor money by 40.


It largely depends on the city and not everyone stays around to make partner. It is incredibly soul sucking to work for a Big 4 firm that long in my experience. I couldn't do the 80+ hour work weeks for too long. In NYC, if you do 2-3 years Big 4, that exit opportunity will be around 100K in compensation.
Posted by GamerGod
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:13 am to
yeah but we trying to find something in a suburb(hopefully less pricey to start) with a 30 minute commute cause E&Y is smack dab in the middle of dallas and the rentals and places to own is frosty high. the potential though is there to gain in a short time money wise, especially for a 21 yr old that by the time they are 26, their salary will be easily over 100k.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:15 am to
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Seems to be quite the grind.

Our most successful recruiting ground for associate level banking positions are the big 4 firms. We’ve hired a few people in the 26-28 year old age range who are burnt out and have to come to the conclusion that the partner track isn’t for them.

We like them because they work our ~50-55 hours a week expectations like it’s nothing

Yeah, the common career path now seems to be get a bachelors and maybe masters, internship at Big 4 while studying for CPA, pass CPA, start full time Big 4, put in 5 years, then peace out for a controller, banking, or smaller firm position. My little brother is Big 4 and doesn’t mind it, but I know he won’t be there long term. Hours are nuts.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:16 am to
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Congrats. Sounds like a hard-working child. However, I'm honestly a little shocked that the starting pay is so little, and that it would take so long to hit the six-figure mark.


Lmao. Those partner pensions and salaries ain't going to pay for themselves.

ETA: former big 4; now at a local firm.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 8:17 am
Posted by GamerGod
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:17 am to
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Yeah, the common career path now seems to be get a bachelors and maybe masters, internship at Big 4 while studying for CPA, pass CPA, start full time Big 4, put in 5 years, then peace out for a controller, banking, or smaller firm position. My little brother is Big 4 and doesn’t mind it, but I know he won’t be there long term. Hours are nuts
this exactly
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:21 am to
When I worked at a Big 4 firm, we serviced the firm as a client. We did a bi-annual audit of partner compensation. This was at the height of Sarbanes implementation. Basic partner salary was 250. They also got an automatic 'lifestyle' bonus of 25K. With bonuses and incentive income average audit partners were making around 700 to 900K. Tax partners were making 500 to 700, and consulting partners were making 600 to 800.

Leadership positions were making more than a million with many making several million.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 8:24 am to
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Lmao. Those partner pensions and salaries ain't going to pay for themselves.

ETA: former big 4; now at a local firm.


Yeah, I guess. I was just comparing it to a corporate law firm, which is the only world that I really know. Smaller scale though, so I get it, it's just that the number was somewhat of a shock.
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