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re: How many of you oppose the legalization of cannabis?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:00 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:00 pm to tigerinthebueche
Again, it comes down to the individual human being and their rights as a human and to be what a natural human is, when deciding on which trumps the other. No other human can infringe on the other'shuman rights, and it is impossible for 2 inalienable human rights to be in opposition to each other- in their truest sense.
We all use a means (a privilege) to get to the end (a right): Driving is a privilege that affords the modern human unprecedented amounts of freedom, which is a right that every mammal like us desires and expects. What do we do when we want to punish a criminal? We take away his freedom.
It is a God given right for me to toke a bowl in my pursuit of happiness, but I can't toke and then blow it in my child's face or use it to harm anyone other than myself (I have that right to).
Dad smoking pot out on the back deck after a long day is dad pursuing happiness and not harming anyone other than himself; dad who comes home and beats and rapes his kids is not the same and you know it.
There are universal moral truths that we all recognize, and we don't need Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell or rhetorical questions to decide whether they ought to be right or wrong or if they should be legislated for. Laws should only be made to punish those who violate these truths, because man will always do just that. Any all-out attempt to prevent them from ever happening is an act of futility and a crushing blow to what freedoms remain.
Pot will always be smoked, and short of a Hitleresque "final solution" there's no law or government action that will stop it, and there shouldn't be.
We all use a means (a privilege) to get to the end (a right): Driving is a privilege that affords the modern human unprecedented amounts of freedom, which is a right that every mammal like us desires and expects. What do we do when we want to punish a criminal? We take away his freedom.
It is a God given right for me to toke a bowl in my pursuit of happiness, but I can't toke and then blow it in my child's face or use it to harm anyone other than myself (I have that right to).
Dad smoking pot out on the back deck after a long day is dad pursuing happiness and not harming anyone other than himself; dad who comes home and beats and rapes his kids is not the same and you know it.
There are universal moral truths that we all recognize, and we don't need Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell or rhetorical questions to decide whether they ought to be right or wrong or if they should be legislated for. Laws should only be made to punish those who violate these truths, because man will always do just that. Any all-out attempt to prevent them from ever happening is an act of futility and a crushing blow to what freedoms remain.
Pot will always be smoked, and short of a Hitleresque "final solution" there's no law or government action that will stop it, and there shouldn't be.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:06 pm to Twenty 49
And if you think I'm going in deep and raw now then you'd hate to get high with me; because after a toke of the good stuff, I tend to opine Mandingo deep.
I'd be a millionaire if I could remember the good chit I've come up with while I was stoned.
I'd be a millionaire if I could remember the good chit I've come up with while I was stoned.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:38 pm to Cowboyfan89
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My sister was just in California and had some dipshit blow smoke right in her face in a hotel.
This bothered her so much she thought to tell you back home and it bothered you so much you thought to post it here?
Some of y'all are weird as frick.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:42 pm to Cowboyfan89
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it should be regulated just like alcohol if it is legalized.
well ...duh?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:50 pm to Mr Perfect
Many people ITT underestimate how many professionals partake in it recreationally. I don't, but there are many people who use it to simply unwind, similar to a glass of wine or a beer. Sure there are plenty of idiots that make their life revolve around it, but you have idiots in every realm.
Legalize it, reap tax benefits, enjoy more liberties.. what's not to like?
I used to have a buddy that smoked all day, using the logic you're describing. This same guy was working full time, going to LSU majoring in kinesiology, and we worked out together. He'd sit in the gym parking lot and light up before a workout, no joke. This guy always got shite done and it always amazed me. During the time we were friends, he also got accepted to the Pennington research facility and became a lead graduate researcher. He eventually graduated and moved to Colorado to pursue his masters, at which point we lost contact.
I know he might simply be an outlier, but they do exist.
Legalize it, reap tax benefits, enjoy more liberties.. what's not to like?
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I've had many-a-pothead try and make the case to me that they are injected with a sense of "git-er-dun" after toking a bowl. From putting on socks to studying, from hard labor to prolonged stretches of intense focus, they swear it's a wonder drug for them with the bonus benefit of helping them sleep after they pound out the day's to-do list only because they were high while checking off completed tasks
I used to have a buddy that smoked all day, using the logic you're describing. This same guy was working full time, going to LSU majoring in kinesiology, and we worked out together. He'd sit in the gym parking lot and light up before a workout, no joke. This guy always got shite done and it always amazed me. During the time we were friends, he also got accepted to the Pennington research facility and became a lead graduate researcher. He eventually graduated and moved to Colorado to pursue his masters, at which point we lost contact.
I know he might simply be an outlier, but they do exist.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 6:57 pm to Hulkklogan
hulkster. from one bro to another. I don't get it either. many folks out there just brainwashed. while they spent their youth smokin cartons of Winston's.
boomers. can't stand em. and once they are gone we are better off
boomers. can't stand em. and once they are gone we are better off
Posted on 5/18/19 at 7:37 pm to whitetiger1234
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My mom got PISSED at me when I said that I thought that Psilocybin should be legalized for medical use.
Grown people ought to be able to do whatever drugs they want, but psilocybin legalization strikes me as incredibly racist.
A place legalizes shrooms (the whitest drug of all) and continues to lock up people for cocaine. That's 100% backwards, in my opinion.
Any drug legalization advocacy that doesn't go for cocaine legalization second (after pot) is just pure racism, and I say this as a white, 43-year-old political conservative who's done just about every drug.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 7:49 pm to whitetiger1234
I don't care if you shoot up drain cleaner.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 7:50 pm to USMEagles
Pump the brakes. He's talking medical use for Psilocybin, not full legalization. There have been proven benefits for brain trauma and things like PTSD with some psychodelics. Also Psilocybin and the like are not addictive.. cocaine is incredibly addictive.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 7:58 pm to whitetiger1234
Who the frick cares? Unless we’re talking about the Bible beaters, the same people that have a problem with a plant yet plenty of them have no problem with taking a sip from a beer bottle or a whiskey drink. I’ve spent a lot of my life in rural Louisiana and I can promise you the world will be a better place when the oldest generation dies off.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:09 pm to Hulkklogan
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cocaine is incredibly addictive.
is that what gary taubes told you?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:15 pm to Hulkklogan
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He's talking medical use for Psilocybin, not full legalization.
Good point. That said, places are starting to legalize recreational use of psilocybin, and I think my opinion on that is valid.
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Also Psilocybin and the like are not addictive.. cocaine is incredibly addictive.
I don't think it's that cut-and-dry.
Neither cocaine nor psilocybin has a withdrawal syndrome.
Cocaine is seen as powerfully addictive in a psychological way, and I agree with that.
I would never explain away any euphoriant as "not addictive," though. People say that about pot a lot, and that's a joke. I've had to quit pot before, and it's not fun. I've even known a handful of people for whom tripping was very much a once or twice-per-week pleasure that they would not have voluntarily denied themselves.
As far as physical harm goes, if you put a crack pipe and some shrooms in front of me and told me I had to use one, I'd hit the crack pipe. I have no idea where this idea that shrooms are benign came from. They are very powerful, and tend to cause permanent mental changes.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:18 pm to rocket31
Joe Rogan 
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:39 pm to whitetiger1234
Mary Jane is psychoactive.
Regardless, I still like it.
Regardless, I still like it.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:41 pm to Cowboyfan89
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There have to be some rules and regulations
We have far too many rules and regulations as it is.
Legal weed and alcohol are way too overregulated
The government isn't an ATM, nor should it be a nanny.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:43 pm to ctiger69
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The majority of people who smoke weed all the time do it for the same reason people abuse opioids, cocaine, heroin, etc
it’s crazy to me that people like you still exist 
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I agree with this, but that line is a long ways from marijuana
There have to be some rules and regulations
The line is somewhere around messing with children IMO.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:45 pm to Ed Osteen
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it’s crazy to me that people like you still exist
I'm all for legal drugs, but the statement you're laughing at is mostly true.
People do drugs because they're fun and they feel good.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:46 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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Legalize and tax it. It's the only new tax I'll ever vote for.
Fake conservative.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 8:48 pm to TH03
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Fake conservative.
When I hear tax and regulate I just roll my eyes. Overregulation isn't much better than prohibition
It took two damn years to open the first business here because of "tax and regulate"
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