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re: How many of you guys left your plant job and what did you go do?
Posted on 10/15/16 at 1:43 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 10/15/16 at 1:43 am to Prominentwon
I paint a dour picture full of hyperbole, like most things. But there's truth in it too.
Shift work is very hard on relationships. And your body. And your mind.
Not saying it isn't worth it. Just that we all make sacrifices.
Shift work is very hard on relationships. And your body. And your mind.
Not saying it isn't worth it. Just that we all make sacrifices.
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Posted on 10/15/16 at 7:02 am to Prominentwon
Interesting that I share your philosophy and did what you are doing. I had a little radio for the Tiger games. My operations work was going to be interrupted by the draft so I hung up the blue jeans and joined the Marines. GI bill to McNeese and on to work as an offshore mud engineer for a short time and back to PPG for 34 years. Overtime was abundant and most of the time I cound pick and choose it. My wife did not need to work.
Soon afer I retired we were able to burn the mortgage on the (third) house. The only frugality was keeping vehicles for their duration which I continue to do.
I was able to fund my kids'educations, duck hunt, buy Tiger game tickets, and take family vacations. Not bad by any measurement. Never wanted to put the Amereican Dream on lay-a-way after military service.
I was funding IRAs before the 401K was available but took advantage of it always trying to fund the maximum. Today I have also the traditional pension which is not typically any longer available and receive social security.
I stayed amenable to an opportunity but it was not there for me keeping in mind that "you work to line, not live to work."
Never let the management coerce you and your fellow opereators into taking safety shortcuts. Good luck.
Soon afer I retired we were able to burn the mortgage on the (third) house. The only frugality was keeping vehicles for their duration which I continue to do.
I was able to fund my kids'educations, duck hunt, buy Tiger game tickets, and take family vacations. Not bad by any measurement. Never wanted to put the Amereican Dream on lay-a-way after military service.
I was funding IRAs before the 401K was available but took advantage of it always trying to fund the maximum. Today I have also the traditional pension which is not typically any longer available and receive social security.
I stayed amenable to an opportunity but it was not there for me keeping in mind that "you work to line, not live to work."
Never let the management coerce you and your fellow opereators into taking safety shortcuts. Good luck.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 7:32 am to CharleyLake
Start networking in the plant. There are lots and lots of positions which for the most part, pay at least what u make. Don't just look at working for the plant, conteaors as well. Then work your way into a plant job.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 7:46 am to TheUnderDog
Most CWI never know what the hell is going on.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:13 am to dualed
Become
And operator and get unlimited internet in your phone.
And operator and get unlimited internet in your phone.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:28 am to dualed
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Been there a year and a half and find it extremely unfulfilling. Money is nearly double compared to my previous job
Well you have said the Magic Words and Win the $200
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 8:29 am
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:33 am to dualed
Sounds like you need to hire on with a better plant. Shouldn't take long to reach $100k mark. All the Shells, Exxons, Marathons & BASFs want you to become supervisors and managers so they are structured for you to move up or take a new position every 4 years or so. In supervision comes more responsibility and decision making which is not monotonous.
I'm in project controls and it's very fulfilling and challenging.
I'm in project controls and it's very fulfilling and challenging.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:41 am to dualed
My dad gave up his degree to become a pharmacist because the instant money at Dow was too good to pass up in the early 80's. He stayed for 30 years, hated every moment and regrets it everyday. Retired at 50 just to get away. And, he would have made much more had he just been patient.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:51 am to dualed
If you were an operator making operations pay with benefits and vacation, you'd be able to overlook the shitty part. You get used to working shift and turnarounds, etc.
Fact is, you won't make the same pay anywhere else in the short amount of time unless you know somebody and are placed in a position or you're an engineer/doctor/lawyer. Or if you stay at the same company for 10 years and have a boss that gives regular raises/promotions.
Moral of the story, get in operations if you like making more money. I don't know what you do now, but you're obviously experienced enough to backdoor your way into an interview.
Fact is, you won't make the same pay anywhere else in the short amount of time unless you know somebody and are placed in a position or you're an engineer/doctor/lawyer. Or if you stay at the same company for 10 years and have a boss that gives regular raises/promotions.
Moral of the story, get in operations if you like making more money. I don't know what you do now, but you're obviously experienced enough to backdoor your way into an interview.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 8:53 am to liz18lsu
I take it that he doesn't think too fondly of Andrew Liveris (to put it mildly).
Posted on 10/15/16 at 9:19 am to dualed
Why are you posting on this board when you only make 60K , everyone here make $250,000 a yr.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 9:30 am to dualed
As a kid growing up, the men in the neighborhood and a few family members worked at plants and they beat it into my head to go to college and never work at a plant. I guess 25 years ago it was dirty and a lot more dangerous.
I spent the first part of my career at cushy jobs, mostly at government related places. Work your simple 40 hour week and make ok money.
Not long ago I decided it was time to take a risk and try to get into oil and gas so I took a contract position and gain valuable experience and ended up getting hired on at one of the plants.
Wish I would have done this 15 years ago. I love what I do (office job), the benefits and pay are outstanding. Even the salary is great, but because of the team I support, I can make 20% to 30% of my salary in bonuses certain years.
I spent the first part of my career at cushy jobs, mostly at government related places. Work your simple 40 hour week and make ok money.
Not long ago I decided it was time to take a risk and try to get into oil and gas so I took a contract position and gain valuable experience and ended up getting hired on at one of the plants.
Wish I would have done this 15 years ago. I love what I do (office job), the benefits and pay are outstanding. Even the salary is great, but because of the team I support, I can make 20% to 30% of my salary in bonuses certain years.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 9:48 am to BamaCoaster
quote:
I have been:
A HS Teacher
Restaurant Manager
Public Policy Researcher/Lobbyist
Clean Energy Marketer
And now run an insurance agency.
!
You sound like a man that can't hold a job.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 9:52 am to Elusiveporpi
Please re-read my post. I know that you meant to reply to someone else. I am retired and often start at noon. CL
Posted on 10/15/16 at 10:04 am to dualed
I left plant life after 43 years in September of this year. I retired.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 10:10 am to vjp819
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I left plant life after 43 years in September of this year. I retired.
Congrats!
My wife is in the investment business and people in her company have handled some plant guys retirement accounts.
Pretty amazing to see the amount some of you folks have built up just by taking advantage of retirement plans and living a simple life.
I think many of the guys had just hoped to get to a point where the house is paid off and have enough to buy a bass boat, but end up with a few million when they are ready to retire.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 10:11 am to CharleyLake
quote:
Interesting that I share your philosophy and did what you are doing. I had a little radio for the Tiger games. My operations work was going to be interrupted by the draft so I hung up the blue jeans and joined the Marines. GI bill to McNeese and on to work as an offshore mud engineer for a short time and back to PPG for 34 years. Overtime was abundant and most of the time I cound pick and choose it. My wife did not need to work. Soon afer I retired we were able to burn the mortgage on the (third) house. The only frugality was keeping vehicles for their duration which I continue to do. I was able to fund my kids'educations, duck hunt, buy Tiger game tickets, and take family vacations. Not bad by any measurement. Never wanted to put the Amereican Dream on lay-a-way after military service. I was funding IRAs before the 401K was available but took advantage of it always trying to fund the maximum. Today I have also the traditional pension which is not typically any longer available and receive social security. I stayed amenable to an opportunity but it was not there for me keeping in mind that "you work to line, not live to work." Never let the management coerce you and your fellow opereators into taking safety shortcuts. Good luck.
Excellent post. So much wisdom!
Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:07 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:
Money can't buy happiness and fulfillment
My father used to say "money can't buy happiness, but the lack of it can make you miserable"
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:07 pm to CSATiger
I've heard "money can't buy you happiness but it sure does make a nice down payment."
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:41 pm to wfallstiger
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find something you really, really enjoy and get people to pay you to do it
I'll just say this...I've done it and it took the enjoyment out of it. Find something you don't mind doing and interests you that pays well, don't turn your favorite hobby into a career it will make you miserable and take the fun out of it.
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