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re: How many of y'all were personally affected by the 2007-08 financial crisis?

Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by done dancing
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2016
219 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:48 pm to
People make fun of Dave Ramsey but being debt free, or so far ahead of the mortgage, and with money in the bank makes all these events a blip on the radar screen. Uncomfortable and a set back but not catastrophic. I feel sorry for people just starting out though.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:03 pm to
Big law firms laid off lots of associates and/or quit hiring. Folks in retirement lost half their savings and I had several folks at my office come out of retirement. Others delayed retirement significantly until they could save more or the market recovered.

Folks in real estate and lending lost jobs. Mortgage lending industry went to hell. People lost their asses on housing. BTR housing market was good compared to many other places and even still if you bought a house in 2006-2008 you probably lost money in it. For example bought a house in ‘08 in BTR. By the next year it had depreciated by about 20%. Took until 2020 to get back up to the point where we sold it for what we paid. (Didn’t flood in ‘16).


Family member had to file bankruptcy to deal with the loss of value of his house in Vegas. $400k house became a $250k house almost overnight. Same thing happened in FL and other housing markets.

It wasn’t pretty for some.

Your parents were probably 45-55 at the time. Probably the best age to not be impacted by that crisis. In house long enough for significant equity. Lost much of 401k, but still plenty of time to ride the market out of the recession.

Took a real toll on those already in retirement and those just starting out buying first house.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13692 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:29 pm to
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Same thing happened in FL and other housing markets.


Remember sitting on the beach in Destin at this time. Was drinking beer and offered some to a guy that had none next to me. Got to talking and he was from NY and asked if I liked the complex.

He said he owned one in there and now was the time to buy if I could afford it. He bought his around 550k couple years prior and said he spent almost 100k remodeling it.

Then he tells me the one next door to his in foreclosure and I could get it for 250k or less and it was actually bigger than his unit. I looked online and they had quite a few In foreclosure. He said it would bounce back eventually but I’d double my money in a few years.

Now condos are 750k + in that complex.

This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5195 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:07 am to
Depended on the market. I live in a decent sized town in a rural area. Things basically rocked on like normal. Met a guy who bought a house with land in the Atlanta market before the crunch and relocated to my area for work during that time period. His world got absolutely turned upside down.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:13 am to
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I wasn’t affected. We had purchased our house in 2005 that we still live in today. Two older guys that I was friends with got some amazing deals on buying a condo in Destin and one in Orange Beach. No way I could ever be brave enough to buy in a situation like that.


I visited PCB / Destin in 2009 with the intention of buying a foreclosed property. But when I saw entire neighborhoods of foreclosed houses, it scared me off. In hindsight, I should have bought as many of them as I could possibly afford.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:17 am to
quote:


People make fun of Dave Ramsey but being debt free, or so far ahead of the mortgage, and with money in the bank makes all these events a blip on the radar screen. Uncomfortable and a set back but not catastrophic. I feel sorry for people just starting out though.


Dave Ramsey methods are great for people who have gotten in over their heads and don't have a clue how to use credit to their advantage.

The analogy I use is that Ramsey is to credit abusers what Alcoholics Anonymous is to problem drinkers.

Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23383 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:04 am to
Very affected. I was sitting out a 2-year non compete and invested in a manufactured stone start up. I was primary investor. Business went from good to nothing in about 2 months as housing construction came to a screeching halt. About 8 months later I found myself working at that business to protect my investment.

In 2011 we were able to sell it but I barely got my original investment back out of it. Considering the stress and many other things it was definitely a loser.

Thanks big banking.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17411 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:14 am to
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Pretty sure Louisiana was the least affected state statistically…..due to oil boom and because hardest hit industries were not located in the state


If you don’t spend money like it doesn’t matter Louisiana is is fantastic place to live. You can almost determine how much tax you want to pay based up how much sales tax you are willing to pay.

Property tax is irrelevant and state tax low.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17411 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:15 am to
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visited PCB / Destin in 2009 with the intention of buying a foreclosed property. But when I saw entire neighborhoods of foreclosed houses, it scared me off. In hindsight, I should have bought as many of them as I could possibly afford.


Scared money never makes money.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37873 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:40 am to
quote:

Dave Ramsey methods are great for people who have gotten in over their heads and don't have a clue how to use credit to their advantage.

The analogy I use is that Ramsey is to credit abusers what Alcoholics Anonymous is to problem drinkers.


Excellent post.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26317 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 5:53 am to
I was 45, owned my house and plugging money in my 401K. It wasn’t fun to review my retirement account but I didn’t really look at it much then. I was buying low which paid off eventually.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3992 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:00 am to
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It seems to me that the only people who really got hit were those heavily invested in real estate or those who were working in real estate.
It caused the market to tank, so if you had an IRA, 401(k), or 529, then you were affected.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41839 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:02 am to
Me - no.

A good friend had his money invested in Lehman Brothers.

He lost EVERY dime and had to come out of retirement to go back to work (he was 79 at the time).

It was a total frick job.

He was able to retire again at 85, but only because he didn’t need as much money.

He is still kicking today in his upper 90’s.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:37 am to
quote:

A good friend had his money invested in Lehman Brothers.


I urge anyone who hasn't seen them to watch Too Big To Fail, and also The Big Short.

Posted by Metariemobtiger
Mobile
Member since Aug 2019
586 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:47 am to
I’m a carpenter and at the time was working for a prominent builder in Baldwin county that ALWAYS has work. If it weren’t for one big job that we started in 08 for a very wealthy person, we would have been up shits creek. Seems everything dried up for a year or 2 in that area except the super rich.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:47 am to
I got laid off from my first post college job because of that.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:55 am to
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It just didn't seem like that big of a deal to me at the time.


You were in college when it happened? Did you stay in college or did you have job offers being thrown at you? Because I’m about that age, and me and just about everyone I know went to grad school. Wage growth crawled.

Lending was very locked up at the time. Just an environment of limited opportunities. And of course, stocks were way down, so mentally everyone took a huge hit to their wealth, so morale was low.

Not sure how you didn’t notice it tbh.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:01 am to
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I just didn't observe any from my perspective. My grandfather used to tell me he didn't even realize there was a Great Depression going on until he read about it in a book after it was all over.


Well I guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

It’s interesting that you are such a history enthusiast, seeing as you wouldn’t know history was being made until after you read about it.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38775 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:03 am to
It didn't really affect me that much. In fact, in some ways, I benefitted. Yeah, my retirement portfolio took a big hit but I was 15+ years from retirement so it was just paper losses. But, during the period the market was tanked, I was buying in to my retirement at a much cheaper rate. Made all the losses up pretty shortly after that.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17411 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:08 am to
quote:

It caused the market to tank, so if you had an IRA, 401(k), or 529, then you were affected.


The big fortunes are made by upping your contribution during the low and wearing that motherfricker out on the down years.

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