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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:42 pm to fallguy_1978
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We'll probably end up with some sort at UBI at some point in the future
I don't like UBI but it is inevitable. I think once we have production nuclear fusion technologies mastered, the advancement of technology will make current society look like the 1800s.
Side note: I don't think I will see (production nuclear fusion) in my lifetime but my children's grandchildren will see interstellar travel.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:42 pm to Ostrich
The giant conglomerates are the ones that can afford AI at a scale to lay off people. Smaller companies are still going to need people, hell I worked for a “big small” company that was afraid to use cloud hosting.
The AI my giant company makes us use, MS Co-Pilot, isn’t impressive IMHO. It struggles with anything beyond an easy search engine or bouncing ideas off, the “deliverables” it creates are absolute trash.
As I’ve worked through my career, it’s shocking how lazy and inefficient people are in general. The older generation can’t use basic collaborative tools, let alone something like AI. A lot of people just seem to do the bare minimum and hope no one notices how little they do. These are the people that AI will replace, but it will be AI+a person that can just be more efficient.
There’s no easy way to predict what jobs may be impacted, but helping my/your kids learning “transferable” skills is going to be more important than ever I think. Things like being able to speak properly, write properly, convey ideas, empathy, the ability to influence/lead, emotional intelligence, interacting/presenting with/to people, being organized, work ethic, being able to adapt/embrace to new tools/tech (like AI), etc.
Or as others have said, start with a job that requires use of your hands, learn the basics of running a business, and make your own thing.
All is easier said than done, but that’s true of most things in life.
The AI my giant company makes us use, MS Co-Pilot, isn’t impressive IMHO. It struggles with anything beyond an easy search engine or bouncing ideas off, the “deliverables” it creates are absolute trash.
As I’ve worked through my career, it’s shocking how lazy and inefficient people are in general. The older generation can’t use basic collaborative tools, let alone something like AI. A lot of people just seem to do the bare minimum and hope no one notices how little they do. These are the people that AI will replace, but it will be AI+a person that can just be more efficient.
There’s no easy way to predict what jobs may be impacted, but helping my/your kids learning “transferable” skills is going to be more important than ever I think. Things like being able to speak properly, write properly, convey ideas, empathy, the ability to influence/lead, emotional intelligence, interacting/presenting with/to people, being organized, work ethic, being able to adapt/embrace to new tools/tech (like AI), etc.
Or as others have said, start with a job that requires use of your hands, learn the basics of running a business, and make your own thing.
All is easier said than done, but that’s true of most things in life.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:45 pm to fareplay
How I spent two months in the NW and SW. Snow, and rough roads, hunting, fishing, and camping. I am about to head out again.
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This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:51 pm to fareplay
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How many more years of human work is left?
All of them
By the sweat of your brow you will have food to eat...
-God
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:53 pm to fareplay
AI will need operators to monitor them.
With that said, AI can’t tell the future. It doesn’t know what shifts are needed in KPI’s and how to build departmental goals that funnel up to them.
Also how will AI’s cyber hygiene be? Someone will need to manage the implementation and tools around that.
With that said, AI can’t tell the future. It doesn’t know what shifts are needed in KPI’s and how to build departmental goals that funnel up to them.
Also how will AI’s cyber hygiene be? Someone will need to manage the implementation and tools around that.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:55 pm to fareplay
Thankfully AI can’t raise catfish so I’m good
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:05 pm to fareplay
I climb trees on a rope and cut them down with a chainsaw.
In Oregon.
There will never be a shortage of work in my field.
Maybe you want to revise your thoughts.
In Oregon.
There will never be a shortage of work in my field.
Maybe you want to revise your thoughts.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:15 pm to fareplay
Skynet will solve all those problems and more
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:14 pm to Ostrich
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I use AI every single day to write stuff for me but the interpersonal relationship piece could never be replaced by AI.
AI won't replace everyone that does my job either, not in the foreseeable future at least, but I do see it getting to the point where there are fewer jobs in my field due to AI.
Some of my job requires a human being to touch a physical piece of equipment, but what's the impact if right now there are say 500k jobs in my field and in the future there are 300k jobs? That's 200k people that are either unemployed or having to find a new career.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:30 pm to fallguy_1978
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Consumer spending is 70% of the US economy. We'll probably end up with some sort at UBI at some point in the future, but it will be essentially the equivalent of welfare, not some middle class income. It will be interesting. I have one starting college pretty soon and I'm struggling a little with how to guide her.
AI will create some industries based on its societal implementation and we will retransition to a blue collar workforce. Plumbers, electricians, trim carpenters, welders, etc… You will also need to rely on humans for public services (utility workers, firefighters, police, EMS) in some capacity.
That said I do hope there is opportunity with the emergence of physical AI to offer people more opportunity to pursue interests and leisure, as long as it doesn’t infringe on others basic human rights.
Gonna be interesting
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:34 pm to fareplay
Always a place for you butt pirates to clean toilets
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:45 pm to fareplay
However many until I am scheduled to retire, I'm sure.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:49 pm to swamptiger99
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There are no jobs, especially no entry-level jobs. And if some boomer O-T says there are, you haven't applied to a job in years.
Weird. I watch 21 year olds get hired with pretty good paying jobs about every quarter.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 5:51 pm to Eighteen
quote:The horror. Parents parenting.
parents are going to have to teach young kids these skills themselves
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:08 pm to fareplay
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That’s until who you communicate with will be replaced with ai since the other side realize feedback isn’t cost effective
Luckily for me that’s impossible
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:11 pm to Ostrich
The answer is for the foreseeable future of your lifetime, your children's lifetimes, and likely their children's lifetimes.
Remember the 'Robots are gonna take our jobs' craze of the late 70s and 80s, when the Big 3 automakers started dabbling in that? I do. We're nearly 50 years removed from that moral panic, and there's still hard limits to automation.
Remember the 'Robots are gonna take our jobs' craze of the late 70s and 80s, when the Big 3 automakers started dabbling in that? I do. We're nearly 50 years removed from that moral panic, and there's still hard limits to automation.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:19 pm to swamptiger99
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There are no jobs, especially no entry-level jobs. And if some boomer O-T says there are, you haven't applied to a job in years.
What if I’m the one hiring and I say you are full of shite?
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:22 pm to lsuchip30
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I'm a couple of years behind you bud. Oldest daughter is starting HS in the fall. She's really freaking smart - much smarter than myself or my wife. And I'm already thinking about what advice and guidance we will need to give her in just a couple of years.
Some form of healthcare: doctor, nurse, PT/OT, etc.
AI will be helping these professions, but not replacing them.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:26 pm to swamptiger99
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Intel
I mean, this happened yesterday
Intel is struggling and it has nothing to do with AI. Intel should be benefiting from AI
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