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re: How long before the world runs out of resources and humans die off?

Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:57 pm to
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You need to learn the difference between theory and fact.



Heat death of the universe is a widely accepted inevitability at this point.
Posted by YogaPants
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:59 pm to
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We have more trees now than we had in 1970.


It seems as though the U.S. in general has done an awesome job of replanting wooded areas after clearing
Posted by Kashmir
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:05 pm to
probably wont be a middle. haves or haves not. those with weaponry and survival skills will stay alive the longest.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:08 pm to
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Heat death of the universe


=/= running out of resources
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:09 pm to


Not in my lifetime.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:13 pm to
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The fact remains is that one day humanity (or at least our descendants) WILL run out of resources. Seriously, this is a cold hard fact



That's not a fact. more of a fact would be saying a virus could wipe us out before we run out of resources.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:14 pm to
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quote:
Heat death of the universe


=/= running out of resources


There's no life without energy. It'll be just one big void swirling around a massive black hole.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:16 pm to
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There's no life without energy. It'll be just one big void swirling around a massive black hole.



If you want to say the sun is a natural resource, fine. But it isn't something we can control so what's the point of considering it in this scenario?
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:18 pm to
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The fact remains is that one day humanity (or at least our descendants) WILL run out of resources. Seriously, this is a cold hard fact.

It's just a matter of time.


Nope.

You don't understand free market and supply and demand.

The population boom is BECAUSE OF supply - mostly due to energy supply from petroleum, and all of the technological advances that have taken place.

At the point that the supply of stuff starts to strain, there would be difficult periods of population reduction until equilibrium is obtained. There would not be some catastrophic end point for humanity. Furthermore, technology is far outpacing our ability to reproduce, and generally, the populations of the "first world" are declining by birth rate.

It's a much more likely bet that worldwide poverty will be even more greatly reduced, and population growth will slow on it's own way before there is s crisis of lack of resources, much less the Earth "running out". Of course, that all assumes there is no other massive event such as a major war, an epidemic, an asteroid strike, or the Yellow Stone Super volcano erupting, etc before then.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:18 pm to
Well just buold skyscraper hydroponic gardens. They are almost self sustaining. And you can feed some to animals go keep meat.

Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:29 pm to
Tuesday
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:42 pm to
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probably wont be a middle. haves or haves not. those with weaponry and survival skills will stay alive the longest.



That's exactly what I said. The middle will be eliminated by the lower class at the behest of the upper class.
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:45 pm to
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I certainly hope for the former and not the latter, though it is not beyond conception that such events have already transpired.



The erosion on the sphinx is from water rather than wind. That area was last under water 50k years ago. But wait, there was no great civilization 50k years ago. Or was there?

Why do old maps portray the actual landmass under the ice in antarctica? Why did early man believe their gods were from the sky?

Why are all of the greek gods' powers easily explained by even today's technology?

The world is far more complex than the current tales say.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:50 pm to
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The erosion on the sphinx is from water rather than wind. That area was last under water 50k years ago. But wait, there was no great civilization 50k years ago. Or was there?

Why do old maps portray the actual landmass under the ice in antarctica? Why did early man believe their gods were from the sky?

Why are all of the greek gods' powers easily explained by even today's technology?

The world is far more complex than the current tales say.


Sounds like an intro to an Ancient Aliens episode.

And I like it.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:52 pm to
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The erosion on the sphinx is from water rather than wind. That area was last under water 50k years ago. But wait, there was no great civilization 50k years ago. Or was there?

Why do old maps portray the actual landmass under the ice in antarctica? Why did early man believe their gods were from the sky?

Why are all of the greek gods' powers easily explained by even today's technology?

The world is far more complex than the current tales say.


That was kind of what I was implying, but I'd prefer not be labelled any crazier than what I already am.

Of course, such things are hard to prove, but I am certainly open to the possibility. I tend to think that our history is more engimatic and stranger than we suppose.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:55 pm to
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While the population of the world continues to increase the rate of increase is actually slowing, current estimates by various organizations project a world population in "2050" at around 9 billion.
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:56 pm to
Archeologists date the sphinx in human history.

Geologists date it 40k years earlier.

I tend to believe the scientists who aren't attempting to shape facts to an agreed upon story.
Posted by Mudge87
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:57 pm to
It will be interesting to see what happens when the Middle East runs out of water. This may not be too far in the future.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:57 pm to
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Archeologists date the sphinx in human history.

Geologists date it 40k years earlier.

I tend to believe the scientists who aren't attempting to shape facts to an agreed upon story.



I remember watching something on Netflix or Youtube not long ago that expounded upon this. The geologists (and Charlton Heston) seemed to be at gread odds with anthropologists and Egyptologists.
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:04 pm to
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Heat death of the universe is a widely accepted inevitability at this point.


That's actually kind of old hat at this point. Latest conjectures are pointing back at a "Big Crunch". And by no means is either a foregone conclusion. And either one completely ignores the possibilities of other dimensions.

Also the "exponential" population growth curve is hilariously out of date. It's actually the first half of a curve that will eventually do the reverse and level off. As has shown to be true in literally all first world countries.
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