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How hard would to build a rocket to go to the moon?

Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:16 am
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:16 am
And is it legal?

I’m not talking a full size rocket, I’m talking about something under 5 feet (or even much smaller), unmanned, being controlled from my computer or smartphone.

I’m guessing the two biggest obstacles would be the fuel and continuous communication with it.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:18 am
Posted by LSUEnvy
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:18 am to
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something under 5 feet (


Where’s the fuel going
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Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:18 am to
Just strap a bunch of bottle rockets together and get you a arduino. Easy peazy.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:21 am
Posted by tigerbutt
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:20 am to
Sounds like you are really trying to take out an ex in another state.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:24 am to
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Sounds like you are really trying to take out an ex in another state.


It’s cheaper to keep them.

But I’m asking a legit (but hypothetical) question. We have more power in our hands with a smartphone than the Apollo 11 rocket.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:28 am to
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Where’s the fuel going


I don’t think it would need much fuel. It will take longer than three days to get there, but only a small amount of fuel would be needed. The problem with the fuel is where will you get the type of fuel needed? It would need to be some type of solid fuel.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:30 am
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:31 am to
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We have more power in our hands with a smartphone than the Apollo 11 rocket.


We have more computing power, yes. We dont have all the math and calculations built into them to control the rocket engine that you dont have to launch it to in to orbit. Sling shite it around the earth to gain speed, then leave earth's orbit on the correct path to intercept the moon.

Computing power, that's pretty easy. The details to tell the computer how to control the rocket that would also have to be designed to do what you wanna do... that's pretty fricking complicated.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:33 am to
Luna 2 was the first rocket to reach the moon. It weighed around 850 pounds and had a payload of around 350 pounds for reference.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:34 am to
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We have more power in our hands with a smartphone than the Apollo 11 rocket.

And yet you don't know the name of the Saturn V. Apollo 11 rocket
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:36 am to
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solid fuel.
I used to know the physicist who solved the problem of solid fuel vs. liquid fuel in the late 50’s to early 60’s.

He died over 20 years ago and the answer was liquid fuel would deliver more thrust per pound.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:38 am to
I’m not saying to do it by myself, I know I would need a small team of engineers (aerospace, aeronautical, etc).

Let me ask it this way, how hard would it be for a small group of college students build one as a senior project?
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Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:40 am to
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Where’s the fuel going


Eh, luna 9 made it to the moon and was only 2.7 meters tall.

Randomly googling this stuff. But I dont know that around 5 feet would be impossible with an extremely light payload.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:41 am to
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I don’t think it would need much fuel. It will take longer than three days to get there, but only a small amount of fuel would be needed. The problem with the fuel is where will you get the type of fuel needed? It would need to be some type of solid fuel.



Fuel is not your biggest problem, there are plenty of recipes on line for that, linking your phone to the telemetry would be a bigger issue, conventional terrestrial radio signals wont work.

Gonna need some geek from the tech board to help out on this one.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:42 am to
I want what you’re having...
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:44 am to
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Let me ask it this way, how hard would it be for a small group of college students build one as a senior project?


Extremely hard. You are only thinking about the math that is needed. Not the design of the engine to do it.

If you could just go buy a rocket with the force and fuel to get you there that was easily controllable with a computer, the math wouldnt be that hard.

Communicating with it would be if you want to make alterations to its path along the way.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 2:46 am
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:47 am to
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How hard would to build a rocket to go to the moon?


Very. If it was relatively easy you’d see organizations/people trying it and not just nation states.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:51 am to
Let's put it this way, it's like asking how hard would it be to program a drone to fly around the earth.

Not that hard if you can buy a drone with the ability to do it.

If you have to design the drone from scratch, pretty fricking hard.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 3:20 am
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:53 am to
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Luna 2 was the first rocket to reach the moon. It weighed around 850 pounds and had a payload of around 350 pounds for reference.


The payload would be much, much lighter in today’s world. The guidance computer on the Luna 2 probably weighed 200 lbs. today it would weigh 6 ounces.
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