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re: How hard would to build a rocket to go to the moon?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:06 am to theantiquetiger
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:06 am to theantiquetiger
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The payload would be much, much lighter in today’s world. The guidance computer on the Luna 2 probably weighed 200 lbs. today it would weigh 6 ounces.
I already said your 5 foot rocket may not be impossible.
Unfeasible to design and build with a small group of senior level engineers for a senior project before you are all 80 years old? Yes.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 3:08 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 3:12 am to NATidefan
If you need a good senior design project, I'll give you an idea.
Take a small drone and make it spray fertilizer/pesticide over an acre of land.
You've just replaced cropdusters if the idea is upscaled.
Eta.. Eh... they already exist.. shite
Take a small drone and make it spray fertilizer/pesticide over an acre of land.
You've just replaced cropdusters if the idea is upscaled.
Eta.. Eh... they already exist.. shite
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 3:13 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 5:53 am to NATidefan
LINK
CSXT(Civilian Space eXploration Team) launched their new “GoFast” rocket on July 14th to an confirmed altitude of 73.1 miles or 385,800 feet. This is the second successful space launch for the team. The CXST first entered the record books in 2004 becoming the first amateur rocket to reach space.The top speed of the new GoFast 2014 rocket was 3420 mph. According to Ky Michaelson the amateur rocket accomplished the following for amateur rocketry:
World record highest altitude rocket launch
World record fastest speed rocket launch
First photo taken from space on-board an amateur rocket
Second amateur rocket in history to reach space
CSXT(Civilian Space eXploration Team) launched their new “GoFast” rocket on July 14th to an confirmed altitude of 73.1 miles or 385,800 feet. This is the second successful space launch for the team. The CXST first entered the record books in 2004 becoming the first amateur rocket to reach space.The top speed of the new GoFast 2014 rocket was 3420 mph. According to Ky Michaelson the amateur rocket accomplished the following for amateur rocketry:
World record highest altitude rocket launch
World record fastest speed rocket launch
First photo taken from space on-board an amateur rocket
Second amateur rocket in history to reach space
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:22 am to theantiquetiger
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And is it legal?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:25 am to theantiquetiger
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I don’t think it would need much fuel. It will take longer than three days to get there, but only a small amount of fuel would be needed. The problem with the fuel is where will you get the type of fuel needed? It would need to be some type of solid fuel.
Oh well if you don’t *think* it would need much fuel, that’s what matters most.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:39 am to NATidefan
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Luna 2 was the first rocket to reach the moon. It weighed around 850 pounds and had a payload of around 350 pounds for reference.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:40 am to theantiquetiger
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How hard would to build a rocket to go to the moon?
Evidently easier than writing a proper sentence.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:51 am to NATidefan
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This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 6:52 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 6:57 am to NATidefan
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Luna 2 was the first rocket to reach the moon. It weighed around 850 pounds and had a payload of around 350 pounds for reference.
That’s an extremely shitty reference, because you are only listing the top stage and ignoring the 18,000 lb rocket it rested upon.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:01 am to theantiquetiger
You have to beat earths gravity. A 5' rocket won't cut it.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:03 am to Volvagia
You need to check that math again bud.
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A rule of thumb is that 90% of the mass of a typical rocket is propellant. We can take a look at Tsiolkovsky's Rocket Equation to find out if that is about right.
?v=velnmom1?v=veln?mom1
delta v is the velocity change of the rocket
ve is the exhaust velocity of the rocket
mo is the original mass of the rocket
m1 is the final mass of the rocket
If we don't know the exhaust velocity, we can use the Isp (specific impulse) to figure it out.
ve=Ispg0ve=Ispg0
Let's say we want to get the rocket to LEO, at about the altitude of the ISS. That would require an orbital velocity of 7800 m/s, so we'll use that as our delta v. Isp varies per rocket. Let's use an Isp of about 340. That's about right for midsize rockets like a Soyuz rocket or Falcon 9. For our final mass, we'll use 1 kg, for simplicity.
So, let's plug those in and rewrite the equation to dispose of the natural log to isolate Mo.
m0=m1e?vIspg0=(1kg)e7800m/s(340s)(9.8m/s2)m0=m1e?vIspg0=(1kg)e7800m/s(340s)(9.8m/s2)
That gives us an initial mass of the rocket of 10.39 kg
So, if our imaginary rocket with a final mass of 1 kg started off at 10.39 kg, then 90.3% of the mass of the rocket was propellant. Our rule of thumb was pretty darn close.
I did that in metric and you asked for pounds, but the answer will be the same - to propel 1 pound of mass would require 9.39 pounds of propellant.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 7:09 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:03 am to AUCE05
Shhhhhhh.
Let the redneck astronaut do his thing.
Don’t bring in oppressive thoughts associated with math in here.
They can accelerate their 5 foot tall rocket to 25,000+ mph hundreds of miles in altitude with happy thoughts as supplement to the space restraints on the fuel.
Let the redneck astronaut do his thing.
Don’t bring in oppressive thoughts associated with math in here.
They can accelerate their 5 foot tall rocket to 25,000+ mph hundreds of miles in altitude with happy thoughts as supplement to the space restraints on the fuel.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 7:04 am
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:03 am to theantiquetiger
frick the moon. Mars:
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:06 am to theantiquetiger
This game will show you how difficult it is -
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:06 am to cave canem
Yeah it didn’t seem right so I immediately pulled it after posting.
Suffice to say it’s still a number high enough there isn’t a fuel with high enough energy density to get the needed speed in a 5 foot package
Suffice to say it’s still a number high enough there isn’t a fuel with high enough energy density to get the needed speed in a 5 foot package
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:08 am to theantiquetiger
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something under 5 feet (or even much smaller),
Don’t build a rocket. The above statement alone tells me you shouldn’t build a rocket.
On second thought, go for it. You’ll have a great chance at winning a Darwin Award.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:09 am to Volvagia
U should just use a nucular rocket engine.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:17 am to pensacola
Just use a solar powered rocket for unlimited fuel, duh.
Ah crap, actually, since you're going for the moon you'll have to wait til night. Then there is no sun. Agh what a predicament.
Ah crap, actually, since you're going for the moon you'll have to wait til night. Then there is no sun. Agh what a predicament.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:24 am to cave canem
So, three things:
1) You seriously spent 20 minutes pulling that up for a post I took down a minute after posting? Given your original post was only one sentence and was posted 10 minutes after mine I’m surprised you saw it.
2) In your cut and pasted example, LEO is not escape velocity. So it’s off by a factor of 3 already.
3) You are using a hyper refined max efficiency liquid rocket as an example. A top tier solid rocket booster will top out at 250 second.
1) You seriously spent 20 minutes pulling that up for a post I took down a minute after posting? Given your original post was only one sentence and was posted 10 minutes after mine I’m surprised you saw it.
2) In your cut and pasted example, LEO is not escape velocity. So it’s off by a factor of 3 already.
3) You are using a hyper refined max efficiency liquid rocket as an example. A top tier solid rocket booster will top out at 250 second.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:27 am to Volvagia
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Suffice to say it’s still a number high enough there isn’t a fuel with high enough energy density to get the needed speed in a 5 foot package
Yes there is and you can make it in your kitchen.
Fuel is not the problem
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