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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:27 pm to boxcarbarney
Eh sounds paranoid.
These allegations are coming from girls who banged these dudes and say they felt pressured to do so.
These allegations are coming from girls who banged these dudes and say they felt pressured to do so.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:29 pm to SEClint
Ironic because he’d probably still be seen as guilty if he never killed himself.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:33 pm to rocket31
Most of my team is made up of males. We chat on the phone pretty often, and more than one has joked that they aren't allowing me or any other female colleagues to join them for dinner/get togethers at our meetings. I know they're joking but they did say it makes them a little paranoid when speaking to a female colleague. Feel like they can't say anything anymore. I feel bad for them and I do believe it hurts women more than it helps. Liberals and feminists always causing the pendulum to swing too far.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:33 pm to Placebeaux
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Or like Demi Moore in that movie Disclosure
One girl I knew thought that movie was science fiction. Needless to say, she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:33 pm to Wally Sparks
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Or like Demi Moore in that movie Disclosure
One girl I knew thought that movie was science fiction. Needless to say, she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:33 pm to TH03
He was exonerated after the suicide, if exoneration means anything.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:34 pm to Walking the Earth
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The truth of the matter is that half of the guys in the workforce are 100% safe because they are too awkward to interact with anybody, male or female.
Yeah Bs. Those awkward guys are exactly the smucks that get preyed on by women to get an advantage.
A part of the issue is the women trying to use their sexuality in the office. Women dressing nicely and feeling like they are dressed nicely usually means attractive and slutty, especially for professionals. Men wear suits and that's pretty harmless, women wear low cut blouses, tight and short skirts, high heels, etc.
Men are going to have to start complaining more often and filing official complaints to protect themselves. I would guess most the women that file these false reports asked for and brought the attention onto themselves until a guy they didn't want to notice, noticed them and wouldn't leave them alone. You go around an office dressed slutty long enough and some guy is going to bite to a certain degree, it's purely nature. Part of the blame is on the women bringing it onto themselves. Even the most beautiful women can dress casually enough to not be provocative.
Eta: I liken this issue to my catholic school uniform days and the girls skirts. Some girl was always pushing the rule on how short they could go. At the knee, 2 inches up, etc. there was always some girl making them shorter and shorter.
Only difference was catholic school had the nuns bust their arse. We need some nuns in the corporate world to smack the sluttiness back.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:37 pm to TH03
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Eh sounds paranoid. These allegations are coming from girls who banged these dudes and say they felt pressured to do so.
Those allegations.
Have you ever been in an office when someone is accused of racism? I have. It made our lives hell for 6 months, and most of us weren't even involved. Constant interviews with HR. Thinly veiled threats of termination if we are covering for the accused party. And the accused was eventually exonerated, but that doesn't make up for the shite he had to go through.
I've seen the same for people falsely accused of sexual misconduct. I'm not talking about Weinstein shite. I'm talking average Joe getting fricked by the system because HR and upper management are more prone to believe the accusers, simply because they don't want a lawsuit on their hands.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:41 pm to boxcarbarney
Yep, and it doesn't take much. One dumbass making a comment off hand at lunch at how tight someone's skirt was and the wrong person over heard, and the whole office has to deal with Bs meetings, interviews, and watching what they say for months.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:46 pm to baldona
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:48 pm to SEClint
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He was exonerated after the suicide, if exoneration means anything.
I don’t think he was, legally.
But the guy who framed him admitted he was lying a long time after likely because it caused Bud to kill himself.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:50 pm to boxcarbarney
Maybe I am naive, but I just don’t think that’s as common as you’re making it out to be. And I’ve never experienced it.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:56 pm to TH03
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Maybe I am naive, but I just don’t think that’s as common as you’re making it out to be. And I’ve never experienced it.
I'm the same way. Everyone can be a victim of a false allegation, but good employees aren't being fired over telling a 56 year old woman her skirt is too short.
It makes for a good story on the OT where people eat this stuff up, but it's not happening at any noticeable rate in the real world.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:57 pm to TH03
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These allegations aren’t coming from chicks like that though. They’re coming from girls who might have been okay with the sexual behavior before and now changing their tune.
And you don't think that's a problem?
What if they were the ones who actually initiated the sexual behavior?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:09 pm to TH03
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And I’ve never experienced it.
In that case, it must never happen. Forget what I said.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:10 pm to boxcarbarney
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In that case, it must never happen. Forget what I said.
I never said that, and I even admitted to your earlier point that maybe I’m just naive. Don’t be so sensitive.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:15 pm to rintintin
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And you don't think that's a problem?
What if they were the ones who actually initiated the sexual behavior?
I never made an opinion either way, but thanks for making one for me.
It is a problem, but I’m saying a guy who is a sleaze and is banging girls in the office is a more likely target than someone who isn’t doing any of that.
No, being a sleaze isn’t a crime. It just makes them an easier target because the act of sex or dick pics, etc whether consensual or not, actually happened. The accused and the accuser will agree that it happened, but argue the circumstances around the events.
The girl will have no proof to show that some random guy who’s she’s never interacted with sent her a dick pic.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:19 pm to TH03
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Don’t be so sensitive.
Maybe I'm being sensitive. But yes, you're being a little naïve here. Does it happen all the time? Definitely not. Is it something that can happen, and you should be wary of? Absolutely.
The infuriating part is that, if you work in an office environment, there is nothing you can do to avoid it. If some ambitious twat has you in their crosshairs, and sees you as a steppingstone, buckle up.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:29 pm to boxcarbarney
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ambitious twat
That's my new band name.
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