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re: How hard will #Metoo backfire on working women?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:06 am to Retrograde
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:06 am to Retrograde
I see organizations moving to a more segregated workforce along gender identity lines.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:38 am to saint tiger225
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It won't, it's just a wet dream of the OTs that it does.
You don’t think there are quite a few businesses out there that will find a reason to not hiire attractive women to avoid some extra liability?
OK.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:43 am to saint tiger225
Talked to a friend yesterday. He employs about 20 people as ...lets call them sales associates. As of a few cays ago... no women need apply. Not openly of course... they just want get called back after applying
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:45 am to Retrograde
I can tell you right now I already am against hiring attractive women. Women as a whole scare me to hire because you never know.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:54 am to Retrograde
Maybe if women can't get hired they'll realize how much more fulfilled they are staying home and raising babies
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:59 am to Retrograde
Are y'all scared of this because you can't conduct yourself in a professional manner when a female is in the room?
How hard is it to just not flirt, harass, or touch a colleague?
I'm assuming you're the type that whistles and cat calls a woman in public.
How hard is it to just not flirt, harass, or touch a colleague?
I'm assuming you're the type that whistles and cat calls a woman in public.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:07 pm to TH03
Less people=Less chance of worrying about stupid shite created by bored people
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:09 pm to StringedInstruments
The problem is that they can just say you did it without proof and it will frick your career up completely. For instance, a powerful business man had a good relationship with one of his female employees. It wasn't sexual and they didn't get too personal, but when she wanted a raise, because her husband is a loser and can't pull his weight, and it was declined, she raised hell about sexual harassment, sued and won.
Another incident was with a lawyer that was boning his paralegal. He was married, she was single. She played on his problems at home and initiated the whole affair with a bj in his office to help him relieve stress. After three months of random incidents that totaled to about 8, he broke it off. She sued him and won. He had text messages and emails to prove that she initiated every single sexual encounter, but she still won
Another incident was with a lawyer that was boning his paralegal. He was married, she was single. She played on his problems at home and initiated the whole affair with a bj in his office to help him relieve stress. After three months of random incidents that totaled to about 8, he broke it off. She sued him and won. He had text messages and emails to prove that she initiated every single sexual encounter, but she still won
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:14 pm to MontyFranklyn
Did you just Dear Hustler both those examples?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:18 pm to YoungManOldMan
No. Seriously, they were told to me by some business colleagues years ago. I'm talking 2003 or so.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:20 pm to MontyFranklyn
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The problem is that they can just say you did it without proof and it will frick your career up completely. For instance, a powerful business man had a good relationship with one of his female employees. It wasn't sexual and they didn't get too personal, but when she wanted a raise, because her husband is a loser and can't pull his weight, and it was declined, she raised hell about sexual harassment, sued and won.
Another incident was with a lawyer that was boning his paralegal. He was married, she was single. She played on his problems at home and initiated the whole affair with a bj in his office to help him relieve stress. After three months of random incidents that totaled to about 8, he broke it off. She sued him and won. He had text messages and emails to prove that she initiated every single sexual encounter, but she still won
Do you have links for those examples?
Because the #MeToo movement is exposing people in the public sphere, and it's very rare for an accusation to not be substantiated.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:23 pm to StringedInstruments
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Are y'all scared of this because you can't conduct yourself in a professional manner when a female is in the room?
How hard is it to just not flirt, harass, or touch a colleague?
I'm assuming you're the type that whistles and cat calls a woman in public.
You're being very naive about this.
Women can be just as "unprofessional" in the workplace as men. They can and will flirt in the workplace with zero repercussions most of the time.
Yet if a guy makes the mistake of reciprocating in any way, she can cry wolf and have that man fired.
Adults are perverted fricks. Don't act like everyone walks around as robots. I've had numerous women at my workplace make remarks to me, that if they went the other way could easily be reported as sexual harassment.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:27 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:These were told to me, 2nd hand, by business colleagues circa 2003. One happened in Tuscaloosa and the other in B'ham.
Do you have links for those examples?
Because the #MeToo movement is exposing people in the public sphere, and it's very rare for an accusation to not be substantiated.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:28 pm to rintintin
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Women can be just as "unprofessional" in the workplace as men. They can and will flirt in the workplace with zero repercussions most of the time.
Yet if a guy makes the mistake of reciprocating in any way, she can cry wolf and have that man fired.
Adults are perverted fricks. Don't act like everyone walks around as robots. I've had numerous women at my workplace make remarks to me, that if they went the other way could easily be reported as sexual harassment.
What were the remarks?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:37 pm to Retrograde
quote:Yes, this is definitely an issue at every company all across America.
hiring an attractive female seems like a good way to get all your male employees fired and your business sued. At what point do we see males only hiring males and females only hiring females?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:42 pm to StringedInstruments
you want me to list them?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:43 pm to YoungManOldMan
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The guy who had my job got fired for sexual harassment. His sexual harassment? "That skirt is too short for work." to a 56 yr old woman.
I don't believe you.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:46 pm to TH03
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The hyperbole on this site is astounding
It's not the attractiveness of a woman that I worry about. It's the ones that want to act like one of the guys. I've been friends with them in the past and still am to an extent. But when one drops an off color comment, I do somewhat get worried about what's going to happen one day. I'm smart enough to not make a deal about it, but some play along and as soon as someone wants to screw someone over, they have the golden ticket.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:47 pm to Retrograde
I’m about to start a medical sales job where my entire team is women. 5 of them. You better believe I’m keepin my mouth shut and keeping to myself. I ain’t talking to anyone about anything. Fuuuuck that.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:49 pm to BeachDude022
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I’m about to start a medical sales job where my entire team is women. 5 of them. You better believe I’m keepin my mouth shut and keeping to myself. I ain’t talking to anyone about anything. Fuuuuck that.
Don't blur the lines of being a co-worker and a friend unless you're very comfortable with that person. That is advice to live by well before #metoo.
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