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re: How Far Will "HIstory Scrubbing" Go?

Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:46 pm to
I know, I get your point and it's awesome
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:48 pm to
But Obama is just as much white as he is black. People choose to leave that part out.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:01 pm to
What is the endgame? This absolutely is a legitimate question.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:03 pm to
Do we have statues and memorials dedicated to the British empire and British war generals that opposed George Washington? How about the Spanish? To my knowledge, we eliminated as much British as we could, even striving to change the way we talk.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:08 pm to
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Is your only education of civil war leaders looking at statues of them in random cities? Read a book maybe.


I agree, do it before they're all burned.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
23007 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:15 pm to
History? Wha'?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30584 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:01 pm to
The leftists are pretending to be focused on the statues right now. They bring up irrelevant specifics such as statues to British rulers or other historical figures pretending to draw parallels. But they aren't paralells.

We've seen this all before with the tranny stuff. Blah blah blah, it's just bathrooms.

Same thing here...'it's just statues.'

Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
2079 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:12 pm to
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But Obama is just as much white as he is black. People choose to leave that part out.


Hell, even Obama leaves that part out.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Blah blah blah, it's just bathrooms.

So the bathroom bills written by republican state legislators are the result of genuine crimes happening and actual complaints from people, not just some creative way to froth up their (donating) base for something that has never been an issue?

Citation please.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SNAKERIVER
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2016
430 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:24 pm to
Will we have to reprint our money? Wrong faces on some bills.
Posted by miamitiger
Member since Aug 2011
2029 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
They wont stop til Blazing Saddles is banned
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112592 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Never was a fan of Beauregard, not sure why anyone ever felt the need to make a statue of him.


Beautegard deserved a statue far far more than Lee

Beauregard was actually from Louisiana and fought his balls off.

He came back to Louisiana after the war and helped build the street cars in the city

He also fough for the rights for black people to work along side whites....

Yes, Beau was actually s civil rights leader and extremely progressive in his time. Which is why it is lol worthy black people wanted to take him down
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48652 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:59 pm to
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He also fough for the rights for black people to work along side whites....

Yes, Beau was actually s civil rights leader and extremely progressive in his time. Which is why it is lol worthy black people wanted to take him down




I forgot about that but Beauregard was a quintessential politician once he entered public life after his pardon by Johnson. A primary driver for his championing of black workers rights was garner votes to try to drive radical republicans out of the Louisiana legislature. He was also one of the people to get rich via the Louisiana Lottery Corporation. But he did return to Louisiana and in terms of a statue in Louisiana, you have a point.

Lee worked to try to reconcile north and south. He actually helped convince Beauregard to publicly swear his oath of allegiance to the United States in order to get his full pardon which allowed for him to hold public office. That is my thinking on why I think Lee, in particular, makes little sense in terms of these protests.

ETA: Always enjoy the discussions.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30584 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:10 pm to
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So the bathroom bills written by republican state legislators are the result of genuine crimes happening and actual complaints from people, not just some creative way to froth up their (donating) base for something that has never been an issue?

Citation please.


Way to deflect. You are choosing to try to open up this discussion with what you are stating as facts, without the precious citations you asked from me.

Stay on topic here Gary...

We are talking about 'history scrubbing.' I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet that you are one of those guys that thinks I'm part of some perceived problem because I don't agree with you.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22756 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:18 pm to
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They already scrubbed all the history from the History Channel.


They did that 10 years ago.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22756 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:21 pm to
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How Far Will "HIstory Scrubbing" Go?


Next Step: This Thread.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:24 pm to
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I have some skin and blood in this game and I think all this slavery talk is getting ridiculous.


If you go back far enough, we all have skin and blood in the game.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49812 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:28 pm to
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They already scrubbed all the history from the History Channel.

Yeah - it is mostly pawn stars and counting cars and pickers and crap like that.

The only good History Channel was the H2 channel but they replaced that with VICE -

Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:29 pm to
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When people find out Henry Ford and Walt Disney were raging anti-semites and racists will we dismantle Disney World and vandalize every Ford car, then fine the owners?


These are private businesses, the free market will take of it of it. Try harder to make your slippery slope logically fallacy work.

Why can't citizen's decide what or whom is venerated on public lands?
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:51 pm to
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Do we have statues and memorials dedicated to the British empire and British war generals that opposed George Washington? How about the Spanish? To my knowledge, we eliminated as much British as we could, even striving to change the way we talk.


The difference is people's fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins weren't being memorialized by putting up statues to the British and Spanish. Most of the confederate statues are memorials to southern fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins that died. 260,000 Confederate soldiers died in the war. All these men are recognized by the US government as US war veterans. These men's deaths are being memorized not their cause.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 6:57 pm
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