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re: How does this happen?
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:33 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:33 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:This.
If you select a profession, you should probably understand a little about the pay and benefits structure with respect to your desired lifestyle. Or, if you did all that, you probably should have had your life a little more in order instead of having divorces and baby daddies that sop up all of your resources.
Teacher salaries have always been low. That is due to how easy it is to become a teacher.
Two things should occur before we even discuss the prospect of increasing pay.
1. Make the degree far more selective and harder to obtain. If you want pay on par with other professions, make the degree as challenging as the other professions.
2. Alter the discipline structure of current schools. Allow for the expulsion of problem children. Foster a culture where schools are allowed to discipline children effectively. This will increase retention and make the profession more attractive.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 9:36 am
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:33 am to bad93ex
I bet all three were irresponsible with the amount of debt they accumulated.
Teachers get a bum deal as far as money goes in a lot of areas but they all knew job doesn't pay worth a damn when they were in school for it and they went through with it anyway. (As far as Louisiana goes, average teacher pay is $56k a year for 9.5 months of work, many parishes are lower than that)
Was the $1000 on supplies actually needed to teach the class or was she getting really in to decorating her classroom?
A few of my wife's teacher friends constantly spew this BS but they're all trying to live an instagram quality lifestyle
Teachers get a bum deal as far as money goes in a lot of areas but they all knew job doesn't pay worth a damn when they were in school for it and they went through with it anyway. (As far as Louisiana goes, average teacher pay is $56k a year for 9.5 months of work, many parishes are lower than that)
Was the $1000 on supplies actually needed to teach the class or was she getting really in to decorating her classroom?
A few of my wife's teacher friends constantly spew this BS but they're all trying to live an instagram quality lifestyle
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:34 am to bad93ex
It happens because they work a total of 8 months a year. Add all the holidays and summer days back to their work schedule, and 8 months becomes 12 months, and their pay increases by 50%...I DO NOT feel sorry for folks who do not work 12 months a year like the rest of us and don't have to be proficient at their part time job to keep it.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:35 am to bad93ex
Easy fix. They can just start an OnlyFa….


Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:36 am to BowDownToLSU
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What about the part where they get paid during summer without having to work?
Most teachers will claim that they have to work all summer making lesson plans. Even the math teachers don't realize that the week they spend on lesson plans isn't the whole 2.5 months of summer.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:36 am to bad93ex
Pure fabricated drama and financial stupidity.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:37 am to bad93ex
If you look at the actual pay scales for teachers in your district, you would learn that they are not paid commensurate with their education and experience. This has always been the case. It is a feature of the profession, not an exception.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:37 am to Darth_Vader

If I went to the doctor every time I had a headache I'd probably be broke, too.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:39 am to Loup
The cover where the teacher claims to spend 1000 on supplies is her own fault. I would never spend my paycheck to supply a classroom. That is the "business" responsibility.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:42 am to Tigahs24Seven
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It happens because they work a total of 8 months a year. Add all the holidays and summer days back to their work schedule, and 8 months becomes 12 months, and their pay increases by 50%...I DO NOT feel sorry for folks who do not work 12 months a year like the rest of us and don't have to be proficient at their part time job to keep it.
you can't expect teachers to work 12 months a year because they already don't have enough vacation time or time to get personal things done.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:42 am to Ostrich
Who are the better teachers? What matrix do you use? How about the teacher that has kids who’s parents are drug attics, who has homeless kids in their class, who have abused kids sexually in their class, who has kids with both parents in prison and live with grandma, who never has clean clothes, who never has new clothes or clothes with holes in them? You take teachers from good school and put them in the worst schools and you won’t see much difference or put teachers in worst schools in the best schools and you won’t see much difference. Parents have more to do with eduction than the teacher. They spend $32,000 on Baltimore kids and not 1 is proficient in math out of 23 HS. It’s the parents and the environment. Too many variables to blame teacher. They take what walks through the door.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:43 am to TBoy
typical lefty drivel.
the market for teachers is growing. The number of people that are selecting this line of work has been growing since the market bottomed out around 2014. If there wasnt a living to be made teaching, no one would want to be a teacher - and the market would react with higher wages.
The average HOUSEHOLD income in the US is just over 70K. The average public school teacher earns 65K.
This is smoke and mirrors. They are being asked to work in a system crippled by political interests, then being told by those same political interest groups that the fix is more pay.
the market for teachers is growing. The number of people that are selecting this line of work has been growing since the market bottomed out around 2014. If there wasnt a living to be made teaching, no one would want to be a teacher - and the market would react with higher wages.
The average HOUSEHOLD income in the US is just over 70K. The average public school teacher earns 65K.
This is smoke and mirrors. They are being asked to work in a system crippled by political interests, then being told by those same political interest groups that the fix is more pay.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:43 am to broadhead
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The cover where the teacher claims to spend 1000 on supplies is her own fault. I would never spend my paycheck to supply a classroom. That is the "business" responsibility.
Yup. I know an awesome teacher. She spent $33 on supplies and does just fine. Some of the other teachers are dropping hundreds to thousands for things they don't really need.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:47 am to Loup
you cant spit in SE Louisiana without hitting a teacher married to a plant worker who are living like kings.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:49 am to Vacherie Saint
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you cant spit in SE Louisiana without hitting a teacher married to a plant worker who are living like kings.
This thread is going to give me an aneurism. too close to home.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:50 am to bad93ex
A quick google search shows a Raleigh County school teacher with 20 years of service makes almost 52K per year.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:51 am to BottomlandBrew
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'll defend teachers a little bit on this one. It's really difficult to accurately judge teachers in a lot of the more urban public schools, especially ones that are in lower income or immigrant-heavy areas. My wife constantly has kids coming in and out of her classroom that speak zero English or parents that do not give a single frick, and yet she is expected to improve their scores to a certain level. She can have 3/4 of her class as showing vastly improved, but the last 1/4 weigh down her rating, and nothing she can do would make those kids score higher.
If you based raises and promotions in my line of work purely based on the numbers of accounts, I'd never have gotten a raise. Certain accounts are going to always give amazing numbers due to size and relationship. Doesn't matter what salesman and engineers work there. Then there are other accounts that take hard work to get 1/10th of the revenue. Our management isn't perfect, but they have a pretty good idea of good vs. bad employees and it isn't just about the results in the numbers as they know the employee isn't always 100% responsible for that.
Why can't teachers operate that way? A great teacher can't make every student a genius. Just like a terrible teacher can luck out and have a class full of kids from great homes, who's parents spend time working with them. It's not going to be perfect as with my management structure, but it's better than treating everyone the same when they're not.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:51 am to TBoy
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If you look at the actual pay scales for teachers in your district, you would learn that they are not paid commensurate with their education and experience.
Kindergarten teachers here make 70-80k, and work far less days than the average college grad.
You will believe anything.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:53 am to Darth_Vader
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I’m calling bullshite on the part about not being able to visit a doctor. Until recently my wife worked at a school and had the same insurance as the teachers. Their insurance is far and away better than anything offered in the private sector. And that’s in Alabama.
Yep.
If i didn't think this was bullshite before, saying you can't afford to go to the doctor as a teacher lets me know you're a liar for sure.
Also, i see you have 20 years experience. Hopefully that's teaching experience as a state employee. Congrats on being able to retire in a few years and get paid a high percentage of your salary for the rest of your life, as well as getting that same health insurance for the rest of your life.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:54 am to Jon A thon
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Why can't teachers operate that way? A great teacher can't make every student a genius. Just like a terrible teacher can luck out and have a class full of kids from great homes, who's parents spend time working with them. It's not going to be perfect as with my management structure, but it's better than treating everyone the same when they're not.
Let me introduce you to no child left behind.
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