re: How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???

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It is not real gun control when you can just bring one in from nearby Cicero. If you want real gun control then you have to limit guns everywhere in the US...like they did in Australia. The Aussies are scions of criminals...even more so than us in the US and seem to have made it work. Hunting is still allowed there.

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The 2nd has nothing to do with hunting...

So what is real gun control? Cut every one you find in half and outlaw manufacture?

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It is not real gun control when you can just bring one in from nearby Cicero. If you want real gun control then you have to limit guns everywhere in the US...like they did in Australia. The Aussies are scions of criminals...even more so than us in the US and seem to have made it work. Hunting is still allowed there.

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Let me show you something.

There was an institute in Switzerland which in 2007 did estimates on how many privately-owned guns there were in each country. In the U.S. in 2006, the estimated private firearm ownership number in America was 270,000,000. In Australia, the number was 3,050,000. This was well after the Australian gun confiscation program concluded. Finally, they had the Australian population at 20,329,000 and the U.S. population at 304,201,000. Link to the data is here: LINK

Now, for 2006, the intentional homicide rate according to the United Nations in Australia was 1.56 per 100,000 people. In the U.S., it was 5.7.

So let's line up the data. Take the number of people per country, divide it by 100,000 and then multiple that times the murder rate. In Australia, you get 317.1234. In America, you get 17,339.4684.

Divide that number into the estimated number of guns owned. In Australia, you get 9,618. So 1 murder per 9,618 guns. In America, you get 15,571 guns.

Moral of the story: Australia has a lower murder rate, but gun control isn't the reason for that. If it was, you would expect the numbers to go the other way. It also shows that most American gun owners are responsible. So the effect of gun control is negligible.

Tell him to ask Lindsay Lohan how hard is it to get cocaine.

Don't argue with idiots you can't fix Libtard stupidity

Without reading all the responses here, "How do you respond to all those saying we should brand every Muslim in the US?"

Look, I get the hate but giving up on the Constitution is a bigger issue to me...

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but if you are going to try to make gun control work then you have to go all of the way.

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Will work as well as the war on drugs.

As long as the murderers obtained their assault weapons with the proper permits, it's all good. We can't make then followthe homocide laws. So, let's ensure they at least they paid their fees and applied legally for their tools.

I can't wrap my mind around how somebody would want to give up the legal right to shoot back.

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We haven't tried real gun control in this country.

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Some places in the US tried, Chicago and DC. They failed, apparently gangs peddling drugs didn't give a shite about the laws. As for those other countries, you know France had about 130 die in a mass shooting recently. You might have heard about it on the news too, if you didn't have your head stuck up your arse that is. Australia? Seems their biker gangs shoot each other on a regular basis. England, they have shootings too, and grenadings. Yeah, couple of cops got killed by a military hand grenade a few years ago. When was the last time a cop got blown up with a grenade in the US? You really don't know too much about gun-control or these other countries do you?