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How do you know when it’s time to look elsewhere to work?
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:41 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:41 am
Just curious how others feel about this?
Have you left a company to go to another one? What caused it the jump?
What were things you looked for at the new company?
Would you take a pay cut for location?
Have you left a company to go to another one? What caused it the jump?
What were things you looked for at the new company?
Would you take a pay cut for location?
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:43 am to Tigernomics
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How do you know when it’s time to look elsewhere to work?
When my foreman gives me that layoff at the end of a turnaround, baw.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:46 am to Tigernomics
When the ice cream machine is broken again.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:15 am to Tigernomics
You can ask AI agents like Groq, Perplexity, or ChatGPT and get a range of potential indicators.
Since you are asking this on a forum, you've probably already decided it's time to look for a new job.
Just don’t burn any bridges.
Since you are asking this on a forum, you've probably already decided it's time to look for a new job.
Just don’t burn any bridges.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 3:53 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 4:41 am to Tigernomics
When looking for another job I mostly just look for who pays the most.
Job scope is important. Can’t be a miserable bastard. Schedule is also a big deal for me.
I guess it’s time to move on if you are unhappy and/or a greater opportunity presents itself.
Job scope is important. Can’t be a miserable bastard. Schedule is also a big deal for me.
I guess it’s time to move on if you are unhappy and/or a greater opportunity presents itself.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:05 am to Tigernomics
If you are severely underpaid, overworked, etc
If it won't get better.
If you have no mobility and desire some.
Lots of reasons.
As others have stated, don't burn bridges.
If it won't get better.
If you have no mobility and desire some.
Lots of reasons.
As others have stated, don't burn bridges.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 6:38 am to Tigernomics
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Have you left a company to go to another one? What caused it the jump?
First time: work slowed down and I had the opportunity to leave O&G for fintech.
Second time: I gained a significant professional credential at the urging of my employer and was the top performer for 2 years by a wide margin. They got cute with the promised promotion and pay bump (get everything in writing, folks) - I got the promotion letter the day I got the job offer to go elsewhere and opted to take the latter.
Third time: boss got canned after making a huge fricking mess and our COO could never give me any firm answer on backfilling, strategy for the department etc. The stress was keeping me awake at night regularly and it got to the point where I would have rather done just about anything else than open my laptop and deal with all the shite my boss left behind, so I GTFO with the quickness.
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What were things you looked for at the new company?
Stability and good people to work with. Hard to tell in an interview situation, but fortunately I ended up with a great boss this time around and I like our C-suite folks and PE group well enough.
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Would you take a pay cut for location?
Potentially, depends if location is important to you and how big the cut is.
- 10% pay cut to be closer to family and have better schooling for my kid? Do it.
- 40% pay cut to move from Indiana to Nebraska just because? Pass
Fortunately, I’ve been WFH almost my entire career, so relocating has never really come into play. I did take a pay cut to change industries, but it was only about $10k at the time. Totally worth it.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:16 am to Tigernomics
The 2nd time the idea of job change comes to mind is when to start looking for another.
Why the 2nd time and not the 1st? Everyone can have a bad day and entertain the “grass is greener” thoughts. It’s when those thoughts start repeating that indicates a problem. At that point the solution does become the other side of the fence.
Why the 2nd time and not the 1st? Everyone can have a bad day and entertain the “grass is greener” thoughts. It’s when those thoughts start repeating that indicates a problem. At that point the solution does become the other side of the fence.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:21 am to Tigernomics
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How do you know when it’s time to look elsewhere to work?
It's always time.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:27 am to Tigernomics
You got put on a CA plan didn't you?
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:03 am to Tigernomics
1) when the idea of going to work gives you so much dread that it negatively affects other parts of your life
2) when you bust your arse daily and see minimal to no reward
2) when you bust your arse daily and see minimal to no reward
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:04 am to Tigernomics
Whenever you post on the OT asking…. It’s time!
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:21 am to Tigernomics
Revisiting to add this:
Except for very rare circumstances (family owned company who gave you your first job out of school and the owner has taken you under their wing and is grooming you to take over), do NOT under any circumstances fall for the “we’re a family here!” loyalty/sympathy bullshite companies pull.
Your relationship with your employer is almost exclusively transactional, even if it’s not polite to say. Families don’t kick their members to the curb to save a few bucks on the bottom line. Your corporation is not your family, your coworkers are not your friends. You are there to accomplish tasks together and be compensated accordingly, full stop.
The grass is not always greener, but the days of working for the same place your entire career and getting a pension + gold Rolex on your way out the door are GONE. Look out for your own self interest first, but never let on that’s what you’re doing. Play the game for exactly as long as it takes you to get whatever you want (financial independence, a title, certain experience, a particular salary band) and not a second longer.
Except for very rare circumstances (family owned company who gave you your first job out of school and the owner has taken you under their wing and is grooming you to take over), do NOT under any circumstances fall for the “we’re a family here!” loyalty/sympathy bullshite companies pull.
Your relationship with your employer is almost exclusively transactional, even if it’s not polite to say. Families don’t kick their members to the curb to save a few bucks on the bottom line. Your corporation is not your family, your coworkers are not your friends. You are there to accomplish tasks together and be compensated accordingly, full stop.
The grass is not always greener, but the days of working for the same place your entire career and getting a pension + gold Rolex on your way out the door are GONE. Look out for your own self interest first, but never let on that’s what you’re doing. Play the game for exactly as long as it takes you to get whatever you want (financial independence, a title, certain experience, a particular salary band) and not a second longer.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:50 am to Tigernomics
I’d argue you should almost always be looking for a lateral upgrade. Just find a way to not be burning bridges along the way.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:04 am to Tigernomics
Start your own business. Be your own boss.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:20 am to Tigernomics
Since grad school, I’ve worked for three companies. I left the first because of the culture. It was kind of a “give your life to the company” kind of place. Good people but bad leadership.
Second company I left was a combination of a boss I didn’t trust and they wanted to change my role in a way I didn’t care for.
I’ve been with my current company for 13 years. I almost left 3 years ago due to differences with my boss but we worked those out. I’m on a different team now but I still consider him a mentor and a friend and we talk regularly.
In short, if you dread the idea of going to work the next day it’s probably time to either fix what’s wrong, and if you can’t, it’s time to leave.
Second company I left was a combination of a boss I didn’t trust and they wanted to change my role in a way I didn’t care for.
I’ve been with my current company for 13 years. I almost left 3 years ago due to differences with my boss but we worked those out. I’m on a different team now but I still consider him a mentor and a friend and we talk regularly.
In short, if you dread the idea of going to work the next day it’s probably time to either fix what’s wrong, and if you can’t, it’s time to leave.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:26 am to Tigernomics
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Would you take a pay cut for location?
In my career I’ve left jobs for 2 different reasons. The first couple times it was for more money. The last time, it was for flexibility. I was willing to take a pay cut to work remotely (this was back in 2016), luckily I didn’t have to.
I’ve never left a job because I wasn’t “happy” at the job, only for an extra benefit to me (money, remote work, etc…).
ETA: I’ve been at my current job for 7.5 years.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:28 am to Dadren
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In short, if you dread the idea of going to work the next day
This right here. Sure, most people probably don't enjoy working, but when it comes to this point it time to start looking elsewhere.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:32 am to Tigernomics
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How do you know when it’s time to look elsewhere to work?
It was when things get bad enough that I got off my arse and spent every minute of free time working to find a better job.
ETA: and like the previous posted said, start figuring out how to be your own boss.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:21 am to Tigernomics
If you asked me 3 years ago I would’ve said I was one of the best at my craft in our organization. 2 years ago I found out the people I worked for didn’t value my skill set. Fortunately I work for a big company, I just needed to add some education and additional certifications to get some mobility. I don’t need to find a new company, I just need to work for people with a different mentality.
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