re: How do feel about Maternity and Paternity Leave

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More proof you're a simpleton.

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I think you're a simpleton. See how easy that is?

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Married with kids generally uses it more frequently. That's not even debatable.

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I never had any left over at the end of the year when I was single...and I still don't now

all the single people in my office use all their PTO as well

most of mine comes in more frequent, smaller increments I guess, while the single people take more full weeks off

not sure which one causes more inconvenience though...

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I wouldn't pay for you and your family to gallivant across Disney World on my dime doesn't make me a bad employer.

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Everyone has PTO. I work for a for profit hospital that at one point literally made us supply our own stationary, and I get 8 hours a check of PTO.

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what. He said he wife's company was paying for their trip to Disney World. Not the time off. I am confused how this has turned into I'm against PTO.

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Never mind then. Thought you meant you weren't paying them at all when they took vacation.

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Everyone has PTO.

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Ehh, if you work on commissions there is no such thing, but your overall point is basically true.

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well you claimed families taking off time for vacations and whatnot was a negative somehow, so...

if they have the PTO, are they not supposed to use it?

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Sure but there is something to be said for scheduled vs. unscheduled.

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still don't know where the "minimal effort" part comes from though

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I've working in consulting in the public sector with hard submission deadlines. Often, we're given smaller lead times to deliver than we originally charted and were expected. Some times you have to stay late, you've got to put in OT to get the proposal/report/etc. into the client for delivery, etc.

It's a chew em up spit them out world. You're going to work your arse off at times. I've found people with hard family responsibilities don't thrive in that environment that require flexible scheduling. It's more strain on them and they burn out.

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Otherwise, what is wrong with adding a condition to the end of that statement?

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Because if you ever put that to paper, you would get sued for millions. No lawyer would ever approve of a citation of employment when it comes to pregnancy in the workplace. The other lawyers in your area however would piss themselves with joy on the prospect of stealing all your money from under you. You would go bankrupt immediately after putting a pregnancy condition at the end of a statement.

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Because if you ever put that to paper, you would get sued for millions. No lawyer would ever approve of a citation of employment when it comes to pregnancy in the workplace. The other lawyers in your area however would piss themselves with joy on the prospect of stealing all your money from under you. You would go bankrupt immediately after putting a pregnancy condition at the end of a statement.

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Because in our culture, this is seen as discrimination, but my question is why?

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I've working in consulting in the public sector with hard submission deadlines. Often, we're given smaller lead times to deliver than we originally charted and were expected. Some times you have to stay late, you've got to put in OT to get the proposal/report/etc. into the client for delivery, etc.

It's a chew em up spit them out world. You're going to work your arse off at times. I've found people with hard family responsibilities don't thrive in that environment that require flexible scheduling. It's more strain on them and they burn out.

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I understand as I was there once and I quit to go to a much smaller, more relaxed firm

I wouldn't say I "burned out" though, it was a calculated decision as even though my current salary is higher than it was at the old firm, my overall earning potential is lower in the long term, but its worth it IMO