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re: How difficult is it for a grey haired man to get a job in a new field?

Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11941 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
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as soon as they meet him in person and see his grey hair they don't call back.


I don't understand this at all. It's not like young guys make a lifetime career out of one job these days. I would think that an older guy is less likely to be always shopping his services than a young guy.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47730 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:53 pm to
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He's not sure what to do.


Tell him "Just for Men" isn't just an accurate description of his a-hole.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15382 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:00 pm to
Move up here

If he wants to work at an engineering firm, he will have people falling all over themselves to offer him $90-100k

Eta: not kidding. Huge dearth of experienced engineers here. They don't like to hire young people either
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98390 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:04 pm to
Looking at the Linkedin profile right now of someone who's been out of work six months. The picture shows a jowly middle aged guy, and the resume touts "35 years experience" in his field. Clearly those aren't characteristics that excite hiring managers.
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
5138 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:07 pm to
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Nobody is hiring grey haired engineers is what he told me.


this is stupid. maybe nobody is hiring aimless entitled brats.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:53 am to
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If he was there for that long he's getting a pension payment. They have a formula for years of service, 80-point system, age, etc. It's probably tied up in his severance package. He's not getting something if he was in fact a shell employee for that long.


That's exactly what I thought. Not so, according to his wife.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14106 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:56 am to
There will be no pay, for Mr Gray
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 3:50 am to
Grey hair shouts "I am older and expect a lot of money"!

Younger people expect a lower salary and will hustle to earn it and prove themselves.

A recent article said to not mention "35 years of experience". Just concentrate on the last 10 years since that is what is relevant to prospective employers.

Your friend is marketing himself wrong. He should have done better research about job hunting.


P.S. Also, older engineers probably don't have training in the latest techniques/processes. Update his skills and highlight recent training courses on any resume/job application.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 3:53 am
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 4:04 am to
My company doesn't really hire old guys, unless they're from India and are expert software engineers. These dudes usually have a MS in comp sci or a Ph.D.

Too much age discrimination to worry about, and the demand for higher salaries. This immediately puts a resume of someone over 45 in the trash.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 4:05 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 4:19 am to

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One year short of his pension


I was informed that this happens ALOT to senior staff employees. Sadly, it happens more often than people are willing to admit. Its a means to get the best shelf life from employees but reduce the cost of letting them go.

Terrible
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7386 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 5:23 am to
Things are tough right now for sure. The older engineers I know who have quit/been let go have found new work pretty easily. There isn't a ton of work right now, things seem to be getting pretty lean. But if he has a good reputation, he will likely find something sooner than later.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 6:36 am to
Not an engineer but I was a party chief for twelve years. Nobody will hire an old dinosaur like me. I was recently laid off from my warehouse manager job and I've taken a job for a contractor in a plant. It's brutal bot I'm easily making three times what I was so I'll just have to get used to it.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30636 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:05 am to
It has nothing to do with the color of hair and everything to do with age and performance
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