re: How different would WW2 have turned out if Germany didn't delay for 3 days at Dunkirk?

If the US still develops nukes, after we nuked Japan then Germany would've been up next. Although its possible that Germany could've surrendered before US nuked them with more favorable terms than what they ended up getting after the Allies captured Berlin

Yes. But how does an even more catastrophic event at Dunkirk change the likelihood German scientists eventually flee to the United States? Those scientists that played major roles in the Manhattan Project.

Dunkirk was in 1940, didn't most of the German scientists flee to the US in the 30's?

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Dunkirk was in 1940, didn't most of the German scientists flee to the US in the 30's?

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Some did. But others matriculated later. Albert Einstein moved to the US in 1933. He continued to work in helping fellow scientists flee for years afterward.

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Watched the movie last night.

-338,000 troops were evacuated to England at Dunkirk from May 27-June

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Cannot wait to go see the movie. Most importantly, the U.S. would have been hard pressed to make up for the land mass of Great Britain as a staging base for sea and air operations. Without GB still in the fight it would have meant staging the equivalent of Torch or Overlord completely from the U.S. sea ports. Would have also meant to have to use carriers in the Atlantic because there were no air fields within range of continental Europe. Losing the additional 190,000 from the BEF would have only made the situation that much worse.

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If the US still develops nukes, after we nuked Japan then Germany would've been up next. Although its possible that Germany could've surrendered before US nuked them with more favorable terms than what they ended up getting after the Allies captured Berlin

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How about if the Germans also developed nukes? That would have been a game changer.

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It amazes me how many people have never heard of this and are now talking about it.

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There are kids on college campuses that couldn't name our first president so.....

Hitler is the wild hair. His decisions cannot be modeled by sane people. If robt e lee were running the german operation, germans accept the unconditional surrender of the brits in france as he would have crushed them during the 3 days.. germany then consolidates, "owns" all of europe.
Develops jets.
Nuance improvements missiles.
Nukes.
They attack brits in africa. The french give up french west africa. Germans take entire continent.
Expand east and south across oil arabs to what is now bangladesh and yeman.
No one messes with them to this day.
Would have liberated nonrussian soviet republics, now and then. The Ukraine would have volunteered after the holomodor.

As luck has it, hitler was in charge. Single worst theater commander ever.


Thank you baby jesus.

Hitler was the wild hare; Einstein the wild hair. Stonewall would have been eating lemons on the beach by May 25, 1940.

would of changed much more than the war. if he pushes forward and kills only 1/3 of the british, think of the impact on british population in the future.

if hitler pushed at dunkirk and swept into suez canal, imo his two biggest mistakes, the world would be a much different place.

although we probably would have just dropped a nuke in germany somewhere