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re: How did Israel pull off the pager attack?

Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18462 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:49 pm to
Just goes to show you that all the tech companies are really just fronts for CIA and/or Mossad.

The Arabs are fricked, thougj. They have no one they can buy tech from. It's all CIA/Mossad compromised. (By the way, that goes for all of our devices. There's firmware backdoors in all our phones that only NSA can access).
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2835 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:10 pm to
Had to be a detonator and payload of some kind involved.

I mean, even if you hacked the pagers wiring, there is no way the batteries blew up like that and it all happened simultaneously, absent explosives.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4135 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:14 pm to
Never forget Israel is the original God’s chosen people. They suffer many calamities, but they seemingly pull the periodic miracle to endure and save the world.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175862 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

If they can communicate, then they can be time synched. So yes. It’s possible.


That's not the point. The point is every battery exploded just like a bomb. Lithium batteries don't reliantly just explode in that manner. Usually the "explosion" is them melting down and catching fire.

Plus, the battery in a pager is small compared to the explosion sizes. In one video the dude's hand was blown off like he was holding onto a firework. Lithium batteries the size of one in a pager isn't doing that kind of damage
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4460 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Control the sales and distribution process to ensure that the explosive pagers got sent to Hezbollah.


Not really... when you consider everyone in the country a enemy... doesn't matter who gets the pager

They probably just started manufacturing pagers that were sold below market value... made the enemy think they were getting a deal
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21760 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:25 pm to
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The point is every battery exploded just like a bomb.

It wasn't the batteries. They placed an explosive compound in the devices, sent a signal to the device causing the batteries to heat up, leading to the detonation of the explosive compound.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:26 pm to
The Mossad put was essentially Semtex in there. It's heat reactant. Battery gets hot = one less jihadist a-hole.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21760 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

The Mossad put was essentially Semtex in there

Yeah I asked earlier and got no response. But is 20g of PETN (the alleged compound and amount they used that is the explosive in Semtex) enough to cause the size explosions we saw in this?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
5555 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:34 pm to
Yeah. It is.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21760 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:38 pm to
That's pretty wild. I did some reading on it and it says it is one of the most powerful explosive materials used. 20 grams just isn't a whole lot and some of the footage I've seen were impressive explosions for something that size.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
2883 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:40 pm to
I would assume they somehow got ahold of the pager shipments and did something to their firmware to make them vulnerable to this
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
2883 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:42 pm to
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Promise you this is equally possible with cell phones.


It absolutely is. They build safeguards into devices to ensure the battery isn't overloaded but if you had access to the device and manually disabled those safeguards and actually built in a backdoor way to intentionally overload it you easily could.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2835 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:45 pm to
28g to an ounce or so, right, so basically 3/4 ounce or less.

Sweet operation.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14433 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:46 pm to
I wouldn’t want to be the company that built these pagers
These crazy hezbollah people are probably coming for them next
Posted by tigerlaw
Madisonville
Member since Mar 2004
808 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:47 pm to
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That's pretty wild. I did some reading on it and it says it is one of the most powerful explosive materials used. 20 grams just isn't a whole lot and some of the footage I've seen were impressive explosions for something that size.


According to Wikipedia, only 340 grams of Semtex were used to bring down Pan Am 103 (a Boeing 747) over Lockerbie, Scotland. If so, it seems that 20 grams would be plenty to blow off a hand
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
3670 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:53 pm to
I suspect they rigged multiple shipments and collected the phone records.

They know who’s at the top of the pyramid, but not the foot soldiers. They triggered the pagers of everyone that hierarchy contacts, and effectively tattooed all the foot soldiers.

I bet there’s a bunch of hot pagers still out there, and wouldn’t recommend buying any new in box pagers on eBay.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2290 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:59 pm to
I suspect a generous anonymous donor sent them a pallet of secure pagers.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80482 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:16 pm to
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They inserted explosives. It wasn't a "cyber hack" where they just somehow made batteries explode.


Right, that would be some computer magic out of a movie.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14915 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:28 pm to
I have been wondering that myself ever since I heard the story.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17722 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

suspect they rigged multiple shipments and collected the phone records.

They know who’s at the top of the pyramid, but not the foot soldiers. They triggered the pagers of everyone that hierarchy contacts, and effectively tattooed all the foot soldiers.

I bet there’s a bunch of hot pagers still out there, and wouldn’t recommend buying any new in box pagers on eBay.
they've done it before. Rigged The Engineers cell phone and blew his head off
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