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re: How can we have an alarming Flu rate already this year when last two years
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:15 pm to DoUrden
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:15 pm to DoUrden
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How can we have an alarming Flu rate already this year when last two years I didn't hear anything about the Flu?
We all went back to work and school in-person this year.
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:24 pm to DoUrden
The vaccine worked so well it got rid of Covid
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:27 pm to tterrific
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So why isn't the more contagious pathogen going gangbusters?
If I'm throwing a dart, because it continued making the rounds for two years, prompting immunization responses, mutating, prompting more immunization responses, etc, etc. So infection rates became more generalized. But if the flu did in fact get heavily suppressed for two years, when it showed back up, it would make sense for it to show up with a vengeance.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:43 pm to Between TheHedges
“Masks” 
They didn’t work to stop Covid,why would they stop flu virus.
I temember reading last year that low numbers of flu cases was due to viral interference :”when one virus prevents or reduces infection by another virus”.
Dr.Geert Vanden Bossche warned against mass vaccination:” in a highly vaccinated well-mixed population vaccinees with a mature and healthy innate immune system are now to be considered an asymptomatic reservoir for transmission of new highly infectious SC-2 escape variants and other highly infectious diseases” -RSV,influenza,for example.
They didn’t work to stop Covid,why would they stop flu virus.
I temember reading last year that low numbers of flu cases was due to viral interference :”when one virus prevents or reduces infection by another virus”.
Dr.Geert Vanden Bossche warned against mass vaccination:” in a highly vaccinated well-mixed population vaccinees with a mature and healthy innate immune system are now to be considered an asymptomatic reservoir for transmission of new highly infectious SC-2 escape variants and other highly infectious diseases” -RSV,influenza,for example.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:43 pm to Joshjrn
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I'm throwing a dart, because it continued making the rounds for two years, prompting immunization responses, mutating, prompting more immunization responses, etc, etc. So infection rates became more generalized. But if the flu did in fact get heavily suppressed for two years, when it showed back up, it would make sense for it to show up with a vengeance.
And it increases the chances that the flu vaccine performs poorly as the basis to start is the prevalent strain(s) from the prior year
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:54 pm to L1C4
LMAO at all the people thinking masks are the reason.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:02 pm to Joshjrn
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Society distanced from one another, wore masks, and washed their hands vastly more frequently than they did before 2020 and vastly more frequently than they are today. Whether you believe that was good policy or not is irrelevant; that it occurred is objective fact.
Where you lost me is your premise that one's personal belief as to the efficacy of socially distancing, masking, and washing hands like someone with obsessive compulsive disorder to "slow the spread" of COVID is irrelevant to whether those precautions objectively achieved their intended goal of "slowing the spread"--especially insofar as you are presupposing that those same measures would be more effective at preventing the flu than they would against COVID.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:04 pm to brewhan davey
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:08 pm to brewhan davey
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Where you lost me is your premise that one's personal belief as to the efficacy of socially distancing, masking, and washing hands like someone with obsessive compulsive disorder to "slow the spread" of COVID is irrelevant to whether those precautions objectively achieved their intended goal of "slowing the spread"--especially insofar as you are presupposing that those same measures would be more effective at preventing the flu than they would against COVID.
That’s not what I said. I said one’s belief in whether it was good policy is irrelevant. If you want to argue that those things don’t reduce virus transmission, I’ll simply write you off as silly. If your position is that Covid isn’t more virulent than the flu, then that’s fine, but it was literally the square 1 assumption in my post.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:28 pm to DoUrden
Because everyone was masking up the last two years and washing their hands and whatnot.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:33 pm to Froman
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Because everyone was masking up the last two years and washing their hands and whatnot.
Corollary: Immune systems were weakened by lack of exposure.
Can’t have it both ways my leftist friend.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:48 pm to frequent flyer
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IDK but there is some nasty shite going around
This. Terrible coughs, fevers, etc. It is nasty. Heard of vomiting too.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:56 pm to DoUrden
God is angry
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:06 pm to DoUrden
Clearly it Bidens fault (Did I do it right)
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:19 pm to DoUrden
Flu tests showed a 98% reduction in cases. I spoke with several nurses at several hospitals. Many of the said they did flu panels before the Covid test. I believe there was a legitimate decrease in those cases (even though there was a lot of frickery with testing IE PCR cycle numbers, etc.). I think what likely happened is this coronavirus virus was tweaked enough to bypass most folks acquired immunity from previous coronavirus exposure and became the predominant respiratory viral strain like we are seeing with flu a currently and in 2009. Folks’ immunity to these viruses wane pretty rapidly (see jabs diminishing effectiveness within weeks). There’s probably something to folks getting multiple shots and it potentially wearing out their immune system as well. Time will tell.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:26 pm to DoUrden
Because social distancing and masks you stupid frick. Simple stuff.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:27 pm to Joshjrn
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That’s not what I said. I said one’s belief in whether it was good policy is irrelevant. If you want to argue that those things don’t reduce virus transmission, I’ll simply write you off as silly. If your position is that Covid isn’t more virulent than the flu, then that’s fine, but it was literally the square 1 assumption in my post.
It’s also silly to assume people were washing their hands more and just all stopped at some arbitrary date. When did this happen? You stop washing your hands? I guess I didn’t get the memo.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:28 pm to DoUrden
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Posted byMessageDoUrdenHow can we have an alarming Flu rate already this year when last two years by DoUrdenI didn't hear anything about the Flu?
You couldn’t hear through people’s masks and everyone weakened their immune systems by isolating. That’s why all the kids are sick right now.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:30 pm to DoUrden
Masks and distance stopped the flu. We don’t do that anymore
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:31 pm to DoUrden
Because Covid, the flu and pneumonia were all counted as Covid. It was right there in black and white in every chart the cdc and Louisiana put out.
Also, every pneumonia death was counted in that too. In 2019 I think we averaged 5k deaths nationally per month. In 2020 those all became Covid deaths.
Also, every pneumonia death was counted in that too. In 2019 I think we averaged 5k deaths nationally per month. In 2020 those all became Covid deaths.
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