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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:09 pm to Slagathor
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:09 pm to Slagathor
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voting there is compulsory, so one could argue their laws more closely reflect their values (whether or not we agree with them)
Deep down Aussies are a bunch of prisoners that can't be trusted with their own physical safety and deep down like a warden telling them want to do.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:10 pm to hubertcumberdale
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I don’t think anyone’s busting up in the school house with a musket circa the 1800s and killing 15 people
So why wasn't this happening all the time in the 60s and 70s before actual assault rifles and machine guns were NFA'd? If it's the guns like you claim?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:10 pm to ghost2most
YOU CAN GO frick YOURSELF. As usual it is not the gun that kills people but the a-hole that pulls the trigger. ??
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:10 pm to Tiger1242
Pass a law that the suspect is to be nailed upside down to a tall tree until dead. Then make it unlawful to ever print or report the suspects name.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:11 pm to Basura Blanco
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the same people who have decided what constitutes a criminal act would do that
Do you mean the same people locking people up for January 6th but letting criminals that were caught red-handed committing actual crimes out on low bail or off 100% free?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:12 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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So why wasn't this happening all the time in the 60s and 70s before actual assault rifles and machine guns were NFA'd? If it's the guns like you claim?
It all started with Columbine and the media stupidly focusing in on the shooters wanting to know everything about them and unintentionally turning them into martyrs. This made psychopaths look at them and want to one up them for the glory. There weren't going to be many if any more Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer's anymore in our surveillance state, so if you're now going to kill a shite ton of people, you've got to do it fast and big... unless of course you're Anthony Fauci or Bill Gates.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:13 pm to tigerbacon
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Simple- make it against the law to mention the name of the shooter
Ummmm, no that destroys the 1st Amendment.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:14 pm to OMLandshark
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deep down like a warden telling them want to do
I'd agree with that... and they kinda did make it happen for themselves, which I'd say at a granular level is commendable (though I disagree with the outcome).
We could do similarly (but opposite) here in the US, but we're far more apathetic until we get a keyboard in front of us.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:15 pm to ghost2most
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The classic response....punish all law abiding citizens and do nothing to stop the problem discussed in the OP.
How is it punishing law abiding citizens?
It's making a standard process for registering and owning deadly firearms.
These loser thugs with guns can get put away for life.
Would is stop all incidents? No, but it's a start and every law abiding citizen gets to keep their stupid fricking guns.
Law abiding citizens aren't the ones causing problems and shooting up schools. Even your average gang banger doesn't go shooting up a school with elementary children.
Guns aren't the problem, how is this so hard for idiots to comprehend. Even if you took away all guns, you still have crazy frickers walking freely amongst us. Maybe without access to guns 100%, they wouldn't ever take an action. This country was born with the 2nd amendment for a damn reason.
Why don't you focus on the actual problem? Crazy people should not freely walk amongst us without having at least ongoing treatment to stabilize them. Some people should never be free to walk among us because there is no cure for their craziness. If the mental health facilities and asylums were available, this could almost entirely be stopped. For 100% of these cases there is someone who could have said something to the right people if it were available. The fbi and police are not the right people. Many of these cases, even the fbi and police have been well aware of and they've done nothing. Honestly though, what are they really to do within their means if we don't have me tal health places to check people into. Society needs to accept that people need treatment and stop acting like abnormal people are just different. Police have the means to take someone breaking the law of the streets, not someone for simply being crazy. That's what needs to change. This will never stop until it does change.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:15 pm to Mordecai225
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The media and social media has consumed the masses and turned us idiots who can't think for themselves and allow Fox News and CNN to tell us how we should feel.
Smart phones have turned us into dumb people.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:18 pm to ghost2most
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ghost2most
literally no one in here doesn't want to protect kids, but you are acting on emotion like a little bitch, instead of coming up with an actual plausible solution. retard.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:18 pm to Horsemeat
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Public hangings in the town squares of dna-convicted or self-confessed pedophiles, rapists, and murderers for starters.
Mass shooters are in it for the publicity, so this would make things worse. Pedophiles, sure, since they don't want to get caught, but most mass shooters know there's an 80% this will be their final hours on Earth.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:18 pm to Chromdome35
quote:Absolutely. Some of the shooters are unstable, and some are not. I was using the Columbine shooters as an example.
Its both a mental health issue and a "society" issue. They aren't mutually exclusive or inclusive.
They seemed to be stable and determined to carry out what they considered to be a good thing based on their view of the world.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:19 pm to ghost2most
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ghost2most
Go....frick....Yourself.... Bitch
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:19 pm to Steadyhands
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Guns aren't the problem, how is this so hard for idiots to comprehend
Explain why the country with the largest ease of access and proliferation of guns has such outsized numbers of mass shootings while the rest of the developed world does not?
Or is this an argument for universal healthcare? Something the US also stands alone as the only developed nation without?
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Some people should never be free to walk among us because there is no cure for their craziness.
Does spouting Replacement Theory qualify as a committable offense? What about if you post a lot about the election being stolen and think DC must be "cleansed?" Just curious how the logistics of this will work?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:19 pm to WDE24
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wow. Act strange and you get a 10 year commitment to a mental hospital? Yeah, I don’t want to live in that authoritarian hell.
Obviously that would be a ridiculous reason for committing someone. What I don't think is ridiculous (but maybe morally questionable?) is the concept of warehousing the truly insane instead of trying to keep them "functioning in society" with massive dosages of pharmaceuticals and psychological counseling.
We as a society have obviously failed at the mental health issue for the last 2-3 generations. I don't think its unreasonable to take drastic measures at this time.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:21 pm to Tiger1242
Ban kids from social media until they’re 18 years old. It is leading to mass depression among kids. They see their peers with supposed perfect lives on social media and it’s all fake. Start there
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:24 pm to Bronc
found our local OT socialist
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:27 pm to Bronc
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Or is this an argument for universal healthcare? Something the US also stands alone as the only developed nation without?
Yet people come here for all kind of treatments that aren’t available in other countries.
Most of the gun violence in this country is done by people who would be up to no good regardless of their access to guns. Legally obtained guns are usually not the problem.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm to ghost2most
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ghost2most
Hey dummy the criminals will just get the firearms illegally regardless of how many stupid red flag laws you want to put.
Ask Chicago how they are doing.
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