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re: How ancient Greeks knew the earth was round

Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:51 pm to
Without telegraph or telephones, how did they know they were measuring at the same time? If they picked two locations that were due north/south of each other they could take the shadow measurement at high noon. Maybe that’s what they did.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:53 pm to
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The light waves from your light aren’t parallel because it’s four feet away
Proportionally at that scale 4 feet is many miles. But sun’s rays aren’t even observably parallel in real life. You can look at sunlight shining through clouds and see that they’re not. Why did they assume the sun’s rays are parallel even when they’re demonstrably not? Why did they assume the sun is millions of miles away? Where did they prove that?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Can we just take a second to appreciate that I rekt this oft-cited experiment so easily.

He says it assumes parallel rays. You can also google sun’s parallel rays and see that they are not.

No you fricking didn't

The sun's rays aren't literally perfectly parallel, but because they originate from so far away, anything that reaches us is very, very near parallel. When seen through a very small aperture like gaps between leaves, the fraction of a fraction of a degree difference is slightly noticeable. When viewed out in the open in regards to an object casting a full shadow, they are practically parallel. If you want to conceptualize the difference we're talking about here, go look at any really clear shadow and notice that the edges are ever so slightly fuzzy as opposed to sharp.

That's the difference we're talking about here. To assert that those differences are responsible for massively different measurements of shadow length borders on comical
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:01 pm to
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but because they originate from so far away,
prove it. That's an assumption made that this experiment hinges on. How did they prove that first?
If we assume a near sun, it proves earth is flat
And they are NOT practically parallel.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102493 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:01 pm to
That's just a theory man.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66922 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:01 pm to
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All the maps I've ever seen unfold to be flat. So the earth is obviously flat.

I've never once seen a picture of Earth that wasn't flat.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6657 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:02 pm to
The amount of people on this board who say the earth is flat and aren’t trolling, make me embarrassed that I’m probably voting the same as they are.
Posted by shadyone2
Member since Oct 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:04 pm to
Why doesn’t someone just take a ship and go around the earth and see if they fall off - surely there is an edge somewhere.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34149 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:11 pm to
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You can look at sunlight shining through clouds and see that they’re not. Why did they assume the sun’s rays are parallel even when they’re demonstrably not?


I can’t tell if you’re trolling with this question
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
29988 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:32 pm to
When did Neil Diamond become an expert in Greek history?
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
331 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:34 pm to
If you have sailed across the ocean, when a ship appears on the far horizon, you only see top of the vessel first, and then you see the rest of the ship later. The burden of proof rests on the flat earth believers. I would guest that flat earth believers have an issue with reality.






Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70460 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:38 pm to
Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40005 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:39 pm to
Not a flat earther and think they are dumb.

How did they know it was the exact same time to measure the shadows?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66105 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:42 pm to
The easiest way is to just get on a plane and look out the window at altitude.

I love flat earth theory. It's so ridiculous I have no insecurity about getting into it ironically.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66922 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:44 pm to
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The easiest way is to just get on a plane and look out the window at altitude.

The fishbowl glass in the plane windows just makes it look round.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10614 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:49 pm to
And crazy I know a supposedly "smart guy" who still thinks the earth is flat and there's a space in the middle of the earth where something happens (I can't remember what he said). I just tuned him out. We grew up together and reconnected last year and I'm surprised the stuff he's come up with.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66105 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:50 pm to
I'm not talking about visible curvature dog.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:53 pm to
please don't disparage black science man and his incredible thoughts

This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
66105 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:54 pm to
If you fly due south from Chicago to Houston, which ocean is easier to see? How powerful does the telescope have to be for you to see the pyramids?
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