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How accurate is KBB "fair market range" in it's price model?

Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28293 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:41 pm
I'm looking to buy a new truck. I've added all the options, etc and it's given me the pricing model "Fair Market Range" of $39,270 - $43,991. Is this pretty accurate from a negotiation standpoint with a dealership? Should i expect to be able to get a much better deal than this?

My current negotiations have got it down to $40,850 from a starting point of about $48,000 and an MSRP of $51855.

I've been using the willcover method of being silent and walking away which is working quite well. Just wondering how much lower i can reasonable squeeze out of this before adding "if i purchase today, will you throw in free rubber mats, etc"
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:42 pm to
3.50%
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1921 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:09 pm to
I think NADA may be more accurate.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:22 pm to
So the will cover method is working but you have no truck to show for it?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85550 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:19 am to
Yeah, I’m not spending days haggling and agonizing over a truck. And I’m not even OT rich.

As far as KBB, I’m not sure
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48184 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:23 am to
Unless you get 15k off it isn’t a good deal
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5996 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:01 am to
You probably have them thrown off their game with the new and fresh tactics. That “if I buy today line” is a game changer.

Frick all that noise
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:58 am to
quote:

My current negotiations have got it down to $40,850 from a starting point of about $48,000 and an MSRP of $51855.



quote:

I'm looking to buy a new truck


Should've bought your Silverado before NY. Find a previous year New truck and would be way less (end of year, of course,too late).
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 1:59 am
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61811 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:14 am to
I got a 2019 Sierra at the end of October for 37% off MSRP before trade took it down further and before TTL & extended warranty brought it back up.

They ended up beating the Costco pricing but of course, YMMV.
Posted by Theotherpikecounty
pike county
Member since Aug 2014
678 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:40 am to
I got 34% off msrp on a f150 at a houston dealership.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:42 am to
quote:

My current negotiations have got it down to $40,850 from a starting point of about $48,000 and an MSRP of $51855.


I really fricking hate buying vehicles.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:42 am to
If you pay more than invoice price you've paid too much.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28293 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:14 am to
Yeah what’s the invoice price on a Dodge Ram 1500 v8 4x2 Laramie?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:18 am to
quote:

My current negotiations have got it down to $40,850 from a starting point of about $48,000 and an MSRP of $51855.


OP is currently looking at 28% off MSRP
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28293 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:24 am to
Edmonds has the invoice price at about 45k. Again not sure how accurate that is
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1484 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:16 am to
Find a dealership that will sell based off of invoice price. I bought a Chevy truck three years ago. I ordered it to be built because I wanted certain packages/options. Shopped it around. It was an apples to apples comparison since the truck was going to be ordered.

Most dealers worked off of MSRP. They laughed at me about working off invoice price. Found two dealers, one in BR and one in New Orleans that would start at invoice price. The one I bought it from actually went $500 below invoice. They said they sold on volume so didnt have to make as much per car.

There may be better ways of doing it and I am no expert. Just describing what I did. I knew I got a lot better price than any of the dealers that dropped off of MSRP, because they never came close to the invoice price. Did the same thing with me previous truck. Good luck
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19319 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:21 am to
Go to cars .com shop that will tell you the market
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Edmonds has the invoice price at about 45k. Again not sure how accurate that is


Have the dealer show you their invoice, and start negotiating there.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:45 am to
I feel like a lot of these sites are paid by the dealerships and the numbers are unreliable.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80830 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:49 am to
All of those guides favor the dealer.
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