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re: Housing prices are alarming

Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:20 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:20 am to
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They predict cooling off through 2019 and full on correction in 2020

sounds about right

so i have 1.5 years to get very liquid
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35589 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:22 am to
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Dont you think it obsered for it to take 30 years to pay off something?

Dont you think it obsered for it to take 30 years to save for something?
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:24 am to
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The automobile market pretty much exemplifies a great free market.



The auto market and especially the used auto market is having trouble right now. Prices and 84 month loans have people so upside down they can't get out of a vehicle after 3 years like they could before so they are keeping their vehicles longer.

I get that's not the point you were making but just pointing it out. You can google it.
Posted by Eric Stratton
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Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:24 am to
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I just want to buy things out right.


Make more money?
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:27 am to
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But their not paying it, the bank is and they give them an IOU. What if they cant pay their mortgage? The bank takes it and they are back to square one with no credit and their money gone


Seriously?

That's the risk on any loan.

If you want to be Dave Ramsey, be Dave Ramsey. But don't act like home mortgages are some sort of nefarious debt prison.
Posted by LPTReb
Member since Jul 2016
467 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:28 am to
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Before you know it even a 30 year mortgage wont be enough and we are all out in the street.


So who will be living in these houses if we are all in the street? This makes no sense. In your scenario, prices would have to come down, so the houses could sell. That’s how markets work.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:29 am to
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You can but frankly with interest rates as low as they are paying cash for a house would be foolish. You should be able to earn more than 4% on your money annualized over 30 years by investing.


You should, but you won't.

Think about it: if that line of thinking were universally true, wouldn't it make better sense for companies and banks that deal in mortgages to just invest that money in whatever asset beats mortgage rates than take on the risk of mortgages???
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:29 am to
Certainly seems that way. The Lafayette market is seeing long listing times from what I can tell compared to a few years ago
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:29 am to
I always knew you were a fricking moron but this one takes the cake
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:30 am to
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The auto market and especially the used auto market is having trouble right now. Prices and 84 month loans have people so upside down they can't get out of a vehicle after 3 years like they could before so they are keeping their vehicles longer


People are dumb when it comes to cars.

Period.

Never financed for more than 60 months and have always paid off at least a year early. We also keep cars for at least 7 years (and usually longer).
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:30 am to
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A person now has to go into debt to purchase a house. Families cant get a block structure to live in.


My first house was only 117K and I still had to get a mortgage... I didn't have that kind of money sitting around at the time...


Besides, I don't consider a mortgage a debt, when I sold it 10 years later, I made close to 80k on it...
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:32 am to
$150k? My down payment for my new house is going to be way more than that.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:34 am to
Here in Atlanta the market is still crazy. There are 700-800k subdivisions going up all over. Don't see how this is sustainable although Atlanta's economy is very strong and prices have historically been cheap compared to other major metropolitan areas.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:37 am to
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You can but frankly with interest rates as low as they are paying cash for a house would be foolish. You should be able to earn more than 4% on your money annualized over 30 years by investing.



This is way above the average financial acumen of our country
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
167109 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:41 am to
quote:

sounds about right

so i have 1.5 years to get very liquid



In their analysis they stated it's not direct subprime that will cause this correction but instead it's cheap money.

People simply have too much debt overall with very little savings.

If you look at the average middle class American household they have two $50K vehicles they financed for 72 months, CC debt in the nation set an all time record last year, student loans are reaching a point of being unsustainable, people have zero savings because they can just get a new CC in case of emergency, etc.

A study shows that if a family is used to making it on say $4K per month and they get a $500 bump they find ways to spend that $500 rather than keep living the lifestyle they were before. Around here you see it in them getting a new boat or a UTV they invest $30 or $40K in. Oh...and you need a $50K toy hauler on top of all that to look good behind your $80K F250 you owe the bank on for the next 96 months.

So why we may not have true subprime lending in housing like what cause the '08 crash you have a sort of indirect subprime lending because rates were kept so cheap for so long it allowed companies to offer cheap finance deals on a lot of products and consumers have put themselves in a horrible overall debt picture as a result.

That cheap money will go away one day as markets slow then consumers will feel it.

So that on top of pricing outpacing wage growth is causing concern in the mortgage industry.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:42 am to
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A correction is coming soon.

Housing price growth and rental price growth has far surpassed wage growth for several years now. It's not sustainable.

That's not the only reason a correction is coming but it's a huge part of it.
big facts

Ya boy GLT about to profit bigly
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:44 am to
quote:

A person now has to go into debt to purchase a house

You know, they quit making the dirt that those houses sit on.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79119 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:45 am to
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Dont you think it obsered for it to take 30 years to pay off something?



Are you 16 years old

"I don't want a mortgage I want to buy a house outright"

"It takes too long to save up to buy a house outright"

Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79119 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:46 am to
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There are 700-800k subdivisions going up all over.


Nah

Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2263 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:47 am to
I think it’s absurd that people are financing vehicles for 7-8 years
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