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Hospitals are asking for donations of masks and other essential PPE

Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:08 am
Dear Facebook:

Emergency room near me is supposedly dangerously low on PPE. A couple years ago they sent me a bill for $900 because a nurse practitioner gave my 3 year old son 600mg ibuprofen after he had a fever seizure, and now they want to know if I have any masks to donate?
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:09 am to
This is a pretty bad take
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69585 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:10 am to
Yeah frick the people working there because corporate hospital billed you.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5295 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:10 am to
What an idiot
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8171 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:10 am to
Some of you guys on here, are scarier dumb than the virus itself.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
40291 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:11 am to
I'm shipping out masks today for some nurse friends. I always keep some to cut grass. Seems they need them more than me at the moment.

I think sending to the nurses directly is the right thing to do. I'll be damned if i'd donate them to a hospital though. They can afford N95 masks
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:11 am to
delete this
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Huey Lewis




Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:14 am to
quote:

A couple years ago they sent me a bill for $900 because a nurse practitioner gave my 3 year old son 600mg ibuprofen after he had a fever seizure,


And they collected, what, $20?

Hospital billing is inanely stupid, no doubt.

This is a pretty damn large indictment on our medical system. Things aren't that bad yet, how they hell are we running out of medical supplies? Are these hospitals really broke and unable to maintain a stockpile? Have they wasted money on foolishness and haven't properly prepared? Is it not their fault at all and there simply aren't any masks to purchase?

Don't we have a national stockpile? What are we doing with that?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78046 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:14 am to
Wow.

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Some of you guys on here, are scarier dumb than the virus itself.



Some of the true colors of posters here are pretty shocking.

"frick those people that are exposed nonstop to the virus that have NOTHING do with the billing department of the hospital. frick their families they have to go home to and likely expose to the virus."

That's basically what the OP is saying
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:

They can afford N95 masks



It's not a matter of afford at this point

They can't order them. No stock.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78046 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Things aren't that bad yet, how they hell are we running out of medical supplies? Are these hospitals really broke and unable to maintain a stockpile? Have they wasted money on foolishness and haven't properly prepared? Is it not their fault at all and there simply aren't any masks to purchase?
One major issue with medical supplies is they all have shelf lives.

For example, the manufacturers of the N95 mask recommend storage for no longer than 5 years post-manufacture.

That would mean that hospital would have to throw out and restock any stockpiles of masks/supplies every 5 years, which is extremely expensive.

If they didn’t, the hospital faces liability issues.

The big question Scruffy has is whether the masks actually degrade during that time or whether the manufacturer just puts an arbitrary number on the package to keep them buying supplies.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:21 am to
did my part today... work for gov't contractor dispositioning property from terminated project. discovered over 2K N-95 masks in inventory suggested we donate to our medical community.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8171 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:21 am to
I'm sure they ride the line so tight on the N95 certification to keep the cost down, that they probably are no good after 5 years. The elastic probably loses tightness in a incremental % that would make it fail the testing.


Is it still better than nothing? Probably.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:23 am to
Also think of this....the whole Ebola scare was almost 6 years ago.

I know like sometime last year we went through all the supplies we had in case Ebola hit us. Most of it expired and we had to get rid of it.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:27 am to
quote:


It's not a matter of afford at this point

They can't order them. No stock.


Do they need to be made in America? I got an email from a vendor in China asking if any of my clients need them. Gave me pricing up to 100,000 of the N95 masks. I have no idea how that would go over. 8 days for production, but that might be for large quantities.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:27 am to
This is almost as bad as my AIDS thread, almost.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:29 am to
I concur... frick em
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

One major issue with medical supplies is they all have shelf lives.

For example, the manufacturers of the N95 mask recommend storage for no longer than 5 years post-manufacture.


Why wouldn't you rotate the stockpile? Classic first in, first out inventory control. I understand the use of such masks ramps up dramatically in cases like this, but aren't they used in some capacity all of the time?

If some do end up expiring, that's a cost we just have to deal with.

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