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Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:30 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I'd love to stay and argue, but I am off to "an evening of Lenten Reflection" at the old Alma Mater...I'll pray tonight for all those with addic..er, diseases.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:31 pm to CaptainsWafer
i don't do na/aa anyore because i don't think addiction is a diease, i think it's just what it says, addiction. with that said, it's not just about willpower there is a lot that goes into being clean, you got to have support, you have to understand what your triggers are you have to have somewhere to stay that people can't find you at that are looking to get you back in the game and not even dealing with physical withdrawls you can talk about will power all you want but someone who is going through physical withdrawals form herion has to have an opiate or they can die without medical attention
alot of people including myself used drugs to self medicate if you dont' get actually medicated for whatever your issues are you're fighting a useless battle.
the problem i have with na/aa is that it just throws everything in the you are powerless pile when you arent powerless and you don't even try to understand what is going on with you anymore you just give up.
and girls have it much much worse than men do. most girls on H have pimps and you aint' going to just leave a pimp talking about you want to get clean, so you end up turning tricks, then feeling like shite and using drugs more so on and so on.
alot of people including myself used drugs to self medicate if you dont' get actually medicated for whatever your issues are you're fighting a useless battle.
the problem i have with na/aa is that it just throws everything in the you are powerless pile when you arent powerless and you don't even try to understand what is going on with you anymore you just give up.
and girls have it much much worse than men do. most girls on H have pimps and you aint' going to just leave a pimp talking about you want to get clean, so you end up turning tricks, then feeling like shite and using drugs more so on and so on.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:31 pm to tigerskin
My heart breaks for this young girl and her family. I say this as a cocaine addict with 7 months sober.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:31 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Now, would this board feel sorry for a gay man who got AIDS from getting pounded in the arse unprotected?
Absolutely not
so sex and the human need for intimacy is a flaw deserving death ?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:33 pm to lsupride87
The frick?
Id feel sorry for anyone who got AIDS, but I guess I'm not a monster
Id feel sorry for anyone who got AIDS, but I guess I'm not a monster
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:33 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
I say this as a cocaine addict with 7 months sober.
there needs to be a HiFive emolji for situations like this
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:34 pm to OWLFAN86
Yea I'd venture to say that 99.99% of people who've had AIDS didn't set out to try it initially.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:35 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Now, would this board feel sorry for a gay man who got AIDS from getting pounded in the arse unprotected?
I feel sorry for anyone with AIDS. Doesn't cost me anything.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:36 pm to Nado Jenkins83
There is a lot of evidence that addiction is hereditary.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:36 pm to Marco Esquandolas
quote:
t's not a disease...
It really depends on how you define disease. But it's a pretty fruitless debate, it really just boils down to semantics.
Whether you call it a disease or not, it doesn't change the nature of addiction. Honestly who cares if it's a disease or not?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:36 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:If I started a thread saying gay male hooker dies of aids
so sex and the human need for intimacy is a flaw deserving death ?
And I tried to say what a terrible disease he had, I would be downvoted to hell
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes"
"Shouldn't have unprotected sex if you are gay"
Etc etc
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:36 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
serious question what was your addiction?
my acdtual addiction is crack cocaine. i haven't hit hte pipe since july 22nd, 2012 so i'm coming up on 5 years.
i do mess around with other drugs but they aren't addictions, so i can kinda understand where both sides are coming from. I can take meth or leave it it isn't that serious i'llk use once every 2 months or so just because im bored. i never used once a day or anything but i couldn't go more than...4-5 days without crack once i got on it i would literally lay in bed and just lock up.
i have GAD and depression and i was self medicating for the most part i've been on lexapro for just about all the time i've been off the pipe and i have literally seen dope and have no desire to use it it's just not there anymore.
i didn't even like crack lol. i really didn't. but when i would take a hit my anxiety would go from 9.9 to like 3 instantly i could take a deep breath, i could relax i could calm down, etc. that's how i knew i was addicted cause i hated the actual high but i craved the need to calm down / not be running at full tilt all the time mentally.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:
And I tried to say what a terrible disease he had, I would be downvoted to hell
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes"
Probably. But I'd be downvoting them for using that stupid expression.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:38 pm to tigerskin
Without reading... this thread has turned into a "blame the doctors" circle jerk.
Addicts and their sympathizers are the worst. It's not my fault!
Addicts and their sympathizers are the worst. It's not my fault!
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:40 pm to vengeanceofrain
Good luck bro. Keep fighting. I can't begin to imagine how rough that was to go through.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:41 pm to OldSouth
quote:
You better hope and pray that your life is never affected by addiction. It is a disease that is physical, mental, and spiritual. If you don't believe that, I hope for your sake that you never come to believe it.
...yet is still caused by stupid decisions to "try" something and further caused by someone who doesn't have the willpower to stop.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:43 pm to lsupride87
quote:none of us should be having unprotected sex
"Shouldn't have unprotected sex if you are gay"
but I hear ya,, the OT is a funny bunch you can say something as a joke and get attacked,, say something cruel and mean spirited and get
s I always used to think those with addictions were just weak. I dont drink, never smoked, never did drugs, have the least addictive personality>
I even have left this board for 6 months at a time and honestly didn't miss it, would read the MSB but thats about it
but the human brain is a mysterious thing and I get how some need to self-medicate due to undiagnosed conditions and can accept there is a lot more that I dont understand compared to what I do
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:44 pm to vengeanceofrain
quote:
i think it's just what it says, addiction
This.
Its not a disease....it is addiction. Calling it a disease is just creating an excuse for using.
Addiction can cause disease but it in itself is just what it is.....Addiction.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:45 pm to Brazos
quote:
There is a lot of evidence that addiction is hereditary.
i have, or had an uncle that just passed away last year that i found out after i got clean, that struggled with crack cocaine.
though, both my mom's biological father and my dad's biological father are alcoholics, and i have had the same bottle of gray goose in my frige for half a year now so i don't know.
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