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re: Hobby Lobby closing all stores, issuing mass furloughs

Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:30 pm to
This is why I shop Michael's for all my wargaming needs.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11338 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:35 pm to
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furlough "nearly all store employees" without pay


That’s what Jesus would do.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4687 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:44 pm to
I’ve know a few businesses that have furloughed without pay. HL isn’t alone, they just brought a lot of attention to themselves. As many have already stated, most employees are better off with the unemployment pay.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:00 pm to
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I agree with this. If corporate decides to close and furlough, fine. But don’t take away PTO from those who’ve earned it.

They are doing this to get employees to claim unemployment rather than use PTO. It sounds like the employees will still have their PTO if/when they reopen.

In the short term it saves Hobby Lobby money and in the long term it’s probably better for the employees, though they may not see it that way. Anyone who can be “made whole” by the state benefits + $600/week from feds is better off saving PTO until those extra benefits are no longer available, or they get officially “laid off” and paid out.

Many companies are doing the same thing. I think California is the only state that requires companies to allow employees to use PTO in a furlough.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2891 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:15 pm to
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Seems kinda of silly that they can't use PTO they earned


You’re an idiot. PTO is not designed for the entire company to take at once. It’s a budgeted line item for hourly employees to have vacation they accrued. If they pay it all at once the whole ship sinks.

Furloughs are not bad. It means they can file for unemployment but the company still pays benefits and will employ them when the economy returns. It could have been completely layed off. But their job is still there and they still have benefits.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67755 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:20 pm to
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"The line our manager gave us was, 'The employees got what the employees wanted, the stores were closed,'"


That's not a line, you moron. That's the truth. Congrats on not having a job.

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My question was did God tell them they needed to closed the stores and not pay us?


Why do you believe you deserve to be paid while not working, you worthless piece of garbage? File for unemployment.

These morons are going to feel real stupid at the end of this deal when it becomes obvious these stay at home orders were completely unnecessary.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35974 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:33 pm to
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The line our manager gave us was, 'The employees got what the employees wanted, the stores were closed,'
can someone fill me in on this?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:38 pm to
The OT is great. No one never reads anything

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Hobby Lobby hasn’t looked good in all of this

Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83170 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:42 pm to
Sephora did full stop layoffs for their part time in-store staff and even that I’m fine with. First, they’ve been paying them for 2 weeks while they’ve been closed. Then, part of the lay-off includes a 3rd week severance pay.

These are employees who work like 2 shifts a week. That’s pretty damn good to get - yet a few were melting down over it.

I imagine they didn’t furlough because the uncertainty as to how many stores will actually reopen. Don’t want to be stuck placing those employees somewhere else if their stores close for good.

It blows my mind that someone who works 20 hours or less per week for minimum wage thinks they deserve to get paid by the company for sitting at home indefinitely.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:07 pm to
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You’re an idiot. PTO is not designed for the entire company to take at once. It’s a budgeted line item for hourly employees to have vacation they accrued. If they pay it all at once the whole ship sinks.

Furloughs are not bad. It means they can file for unemployment but the company still pays benefits and will employ them when the economy returns. It could have been completely layed off. But their job is still there and they still have benefits.


If employees take another job during the furlough will they receive a check for the accrued PTO when Hobby Lobby reopens? If not, frick them.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
11006 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:22 pm to
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If employees take another job during the furlough will they receive a check for the accrued PTO when Hobby Lobby reopens? If not, frick them.


Of course (if they find something better & formally resign). They would also get it if this transitions into a layoff.

In meantime they take full advantage of relief passed by Congress, keep same health insurance, and have HL pay employees' share of the premiums. If they reopen May 1st (that was up until date listed for now) they come back to job with same date of hire and remaining PTO to use.

This is only a story for some because its Hobby Lobby. Some get a hard on wanting to make their actions wrong.
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