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Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:36 pm to theGarnetWay
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Gettysburg
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:37 pm to Stealth Matrix
The battle for Moscow in 41 was far more important than Stalingrad in 42 as it was the only real chance the Reich had to collapse the USSR.
Even if disaster is avoided and the 6th Army manages to escape the Stalingrad pocket the war was still already effectively over. In fact the release of the divisions that were holding the pocket might have rolled up the entire army group.
Even if disaster is avoided and the 6th Army manages to escape the Stalingrad pocket the war was still already effectively over. In fact the release of the divisions that were holding the pocket might have rolled up the entire army group.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:37 pm to RollTide1987
As far as being the most decisive within the corresponding war, I would define that as battles where the outcome of the conflict was undetermined prior to the battle, and afterwards the conflict was either ended or one side's chances to win the war was rendered to zero. I would go with:
and
Some of the others were monumental and enormously important battles, but took place after the outcome of the war had long been decided. In other words, they hastened the end for one side, but that side was already going to lose the war. For instance:
As others ITT have stated, Germany's failure to capture Moscow would been more appropriate for this list than Stalingrad or Kursk.
First Marne and Tannenberg were too early in World War I IMO for this list. The Central Powers had many opportunities to win the war after the first Marne, and Russia's exit from World War I had more to do with its internal situation than pure military losses. Tannenberg was an enormous blow, but Russia hung around for a while after that, and kicked the hell out of the Austrians until the Bolsheviks took over and got out of the war.
For Trafalgar, I didn't include it because Napoleon had already given up on his plans to attempt an invasion of Britain before the battle. Plus, Napoleon ultimately won the war of the third coalition.
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Austerlitz
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Leipzig
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Waterloo
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Sedan (1870)
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Tsushima Straits
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Midway
Some of the others were monumental and enormously important battles, but took place after the outcome of the war had long been decided. In other words, they hastened the end for one side, but that side was already going to lose the war. For instance:
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Vicksburg
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2nd El Alamein
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Stalingrad
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Kursk
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Philippine Sea
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Normandy
As others ITT have stated, Germany's failure to capture Moscow would been more appropriate for this list than Stalingrad or Kursk.
First Marne and Tannenberg were too early in World War I IMO for this list. The Central Powers had many opportunities to win the war after the first Marne, and Russia's exit from World War I had more to do with its internal situation than pure military losses. Tannenberg was an enormous blow, but Russia hung around for a while after that, and kicked the hell out of the Austrians until the Bolsheviks took over and got out of the war.
For Trafalgar, I didn't include it because Napoleon had already given up on his plans to attempt an invasion of Britain before the battle. Plus, Napoleon ultimately won the war of the third coalition.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:38 pm to UncleD7734
Your all wrong. It was the Battle of New Orleans and Andy Jackson. That was an arse whoopin!
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:39 pm to Pauldingtiger
quote:the statue is coming down bro
It was the Battle of New Orleans and Andy Jackson. That was an arse whoopin!
deal with it
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:41 pm to Pauldingtiger
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Your all wrong. It was the Battle of New Orleans and Andy Jackson. That was an arse whoopin!
oh yea big time, has anybody else ever beat the british azzz that bad ?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:42 pm to Pauldingtiger
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It was the Battle of New Orleans and Andy Jackson. That was an arse whoopin!
While it was an arse whoopin, I think the Battle of NOLA would be the smallest engagement on this list by an order of magnitude or so
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:43 pm to RollTide1987
Battle of the Atlantic.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:45 pm to Cfrobel
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The battle for Moscow in 41 was far more important than Stalingrad in 42 as it was the only real chance the Reich had to collapse the USSR.
Even if Germany captures Moscow in 41 that's no guarantee the Soviet Union collapses. Napoleon had captured Moscow some 126 years earlier and Russia still refused to capitulate.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:46 pm to RollTide1987
quote:LSU 42
History Nerds: The most decisive battle fought since the year 1800?
Clemson 25
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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Battle of the Atlantic.
Longest battle of wwii and arguably the most important. Go look up black may 1943. Was the strategic turning point. Without secure sea lanes British out of the war and no way US can invade mainland Europe
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:47 pm to LSURussian
1/9/2012
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:47 pm to Indefatigable
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While it was an arse whoopin, I think the Battle of NOLA would be the smallest engagement on this list by an order of magnitude or so
plus the war was already over...
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:48 pm to Indefatigable
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While it was an arse whoopin, I think the Battle of NOLA would be the smallest engagement on this list by an order of magnitude or so
It also occurred after the treaty ending the war had been signed in Europe and produced nothing of any military value. All it did was vault Andrew Jackson into national superstardom.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:49 pm to RollTide1987
No way the British hand over new orleans after taking it treaty or not
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:50 pm to RollTide1987
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It also occurred after the treaty ending the war had been signed in Europe and produced nothing of any military value.
I am not sure Britain would have given the city back, treaty or not.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:51 pm to Original Big Dawg
quote:you mean besides America?
has anybody else ever beat the british azzz that bad ?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:53 pm to RollTide1987
Cinco de Mayo. the French loss to Mexico gave Mexico its only national battle success against a major foreign opponent. Gen. Zaragoza from Goliad Texas was the battle field commander fo Mexico
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:53 pm to geauxtigers87
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No way the British hand over new orleans after taking it treaty or not
The ink was already dry on the treaty and they would have had to have abided by the terms or else risk another war breaking out. The British had no desire to start another war over New Orleans as they had just gotten done with the Napoleonic Wars in Europe with (unbeknownst to them) one more battle to fight against Napoleon left to go.
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