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re: High-Paying Trade Jobs Sit Empty, While High School Grads Line Up For University

Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:28 pm to
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I make about 86,000 a year as an elevator technician.


Yeah, as a facility mgr once I had to go to a seminar on elevator emergencies. Locally there are a lot of regulations that help make it a fairly lucrative job.

In emergency, we couldn't open the unit and had to call a tech. There were only about 6 in the whole State
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:28 pm to
Got a union pension plan and a blue cross blue shield plan.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:30 pm to
I lucked up into getting my elevator job. The boss man needed an electrician, I was an electrician. His dad was in the Coast Guard and I just got out of the Coast Guard
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282899 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:35 pm to
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I've got 3 more than you.


I don't think anyone believes that you have one degree, much less 5
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:36 pm to
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Got a union pension plan and a blue cross blue shield plan.



That's not a bad gig then, but you are in the minority. Especially going forward as union continue to shrink. Good for you though, sounds like you do pretty well.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:37 pm to
It's easier to find someone who has a shitty degree working a job they think they are too qualified to work than it is a good plumber.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17796 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:38 pm to
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A bad back, bum knee, diabetes or arthritis are inconveniences to a 50 year old white collar worker, but many carpenters, plumbers, machinists, etc. with such problems end up applying for disability or are forced into lower paying unskilled jobs (Welcome to Moe’s!) that arent as physical.


Why do you labor under this bullshite? My fiancée is a dentist. You have any idea how many dentists retire early due to all of those same problems plus have high suicide rates? I've done physical work for my entire life plus the usual (and unusual) physical training the military has required for nearly 20 years and I have exactly zero mobility pain. You do realize that younger people can take advantage of smart working practices that pay attention to ergonomics and not suffer from back and knee injuries? You do realize sitting in a chair glfor hours can cause debilitating neck, shoulder, back, and extremity injury?

Some of you are incredibly narrow-minded...
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:43 pm to
In Maine there is only about 40-50 elevator techs in the whole state.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53393 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:44 pm to
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I know a guy who makes 400k a year doing electrical work for farmers on irrigation pivots/wells and such. He can't find a young guy willing to do it to take over when he retires in a couple years. Makes more than most local doctors/lawyers do


The OT has by far the rosiest view on trade jobs I've ever seen.

Everyone seems to know a guy like the one quoted lol
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Why do you labor under this bullshite? My fiancée is a dentist. You have any idea how many dentists retire early


Well yeah, because they can afford it. 99% of plumbers can't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282899 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Everyone seems to know a guy like the one quoted lol


in general if you have a decent, well rounded circle of acquaintances you will
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2972 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
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The OT has by far the rosiest view on trade jobs I've ever seen. Everyone seems to know a guy like the one quoted lol


Everyone loves the outlier. Meanwhile there are office buildings full of lawyers, bankers, engineers, salespeople, coders, doctors, creatives, etc., etc. making similar and/or better money.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20148 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
Sure, it can go either way. I’ve always thought dentists are especially prone to disability. A hand, vision, or standing issue can knock them out. Same for barbers.

Surgeons file disability claims often under their special policies. But they can still make bank in a clinical practice even if they can’t operate.

I’ve got two relatives who were wrecked in knee or shoulder from factory jobs. Shoulder had to hang it up at 52. Knee is limping on after surgeries. Another one has limped since he was 30 after bad back surgery, but he has a degree and white collar job so put in over 40 years.

I see a lot of disability applications. Shitloads of blue collar guys start applying at about 45 and up.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
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The OT has by far the rosiest view on trade jobs I've ever seen.



It's weird. The OT is generally a contradictory place so maybe that's why.

Anyone that believes the trades are a hidden gem needs to go the their local supply house and spend 30 min drinking a cup of coffee while observing the men that come in. Vast majority are tired men who will have no choice but to work until their bodies just can't anymore. This is the reality of the trades.

Stay in school kids.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1283 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
If you spend anytime in a major trauma center, you will see that many of these jobs come with risk of severe injury.

While I agree that college isn't necessarily for everyone, it remains the best option for students who excel in high school.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53393 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:57 pm to
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in general if you have a decent, well rounded circle of acquaintances you will


Yeah I know a trade worker who does well. However, I also understand that the vast majority of trade workers will never reach that level of pay and will top out at 65k a year if they're lucky.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:59 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282899 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:00 pm to
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and will top out at 65k a year if they're lucky.


Just depends on where you live

Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:10 pm to
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depends on where you live




Interestingly enough, so does the cost of living.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:12 pm to
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Anyone that believes the trades are a hidden gem needs to go the their local supply house and spend 30 min drinking a cup of coffee while observing the men that come in. Vast majority are tired men who will have no choice but to work until their bodies just can't anymore. This is the reality of the trades.

Stay in school kids


This is all true, but only if they are college material and with a career in mind that has some possibility of paying the bills. Less than half of all high school graduates go to college, and a significant number of those that go to college should have done something else. Nothing is being done to provide career training for these students while skilled labor jobs go unfilled.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:16 pm to
Based on what I paid my plumber for 2.5 days of work, I’m about to quit my job and become one.
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