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re: Heroin laced with elephant tranquilizers is hitting the streets

Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:12 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:12 am to
The issue with heroin right now is that I don't think people truly realize how easy it is to get addicted to prescription opioids, especially if you have some ongoing health issues that have required surgery (since that's usually where it starts) and how easy it is to make the jump from prescription to heroin.

It's no coincidence that you've probably seen a sharp jump in heroin addicts in states where they've pushed for harder prescription restrictions. I'm not saying they shouldn't, but unfortunately that's the underbelly of those laws.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:13 am to
The Carfentanil should help people unwind in a way that plain old boring heroin just can't do.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:15 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:15 am to
yeah there were a lot of new opioid addicts b/c of the pain pill boom of the 00s

then the Rx drugs were restricted, prices rose, and it coincided with Afghanistan and Mexico starting to produce huge amounts of heroin. it's cheaper and more available then teh Rx opioids and heroin is coming back strong

it's a really bad system that developed and we're not dealing with it that well
Posted by Makinbacon
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:15 am to
I don't.
Lucky me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:16 am to
oops
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:17 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:18 am to
I'm sure someone has pissed on it as well at some point.
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:30 am to
Gamedays just got better
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:43 am to
quote:

The issue with heroin right now is that I don't think people truly realize how easy it is to get addicted to prescription opioids, especially if you have some ongoing health issues that have required surgery (since that's usually where it starts) and how easy it is to make the jump from prescription to heroin.

It's no coincidence that you've probably seen a sharp jump in heroin addicts in states where they've pushed for harder prescription restrictions. I'm not saying they shouldn't, but unfortunately that's the underbelly of those laws.


OC and other painkillers were everywhere when i was at LSU 08-12. I knew a few people that got pretty bad off, lucky to avoid any OD's or major junky theft with anyone I was close with. All the people i care about are fine now, I knew others that fell in knee deep.

I am not surprised at all that you are seeing a rise in Heroin use, once that Florida pill mill connection closed.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

OC and other painkillers were everywhere when i was at LSU 08-12.


It really was absurd how easily they were to get, my friends and I were buying hundreds at a time in that period. It's been years since I've even heard of anyone holding pain killers. Of course, a big part of that is getting older, I'm sure there are still some to be found in the college aged crowd.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

About 2 milligrams can knock out a nearly 2,000-pound African elephant.


Ho Lee frick
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:07 am to
Well people smoke drano (meth) what else.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:11 am to
Who knew they sedated Elephants with a huge dose of a super-strong opiate/opiod.

Being some folks taking eternal naps I fear.

eta:The restrictions on Pain Management Doctors has got a lot of people that were probably using some form of OxyContin,now probably are using whatever they can find.Probably Fentanyl or Heroin.

I'm 55 and in Pain Management.Had a Total Knee Replacement November 9th.My Doctor prescribes me Norco(HydroCodone).

The DEA has affected the way Doctors treat their Patients.That's F'd up.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:24 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:14 am to
The tighter restrictions on opiods will help in the long run for this new generation to prevent more people who previously had no addictions to becoming addicted, but in the short term it leaves those already addicted to them to turn to heroin.

We need a transition plan for those addicted to opiods instead of drying up the well.

It sounds crazy, but we need to allow them to take opiate pills under supervision and ween them off, also under supervision.

I have seen several friends/acquaintances die from OD'ing and had even more friends that were basically junkies in college and stole from everyone. Most of them are cleaned up now, but there are some who either perished or will never be "normal".

fricking sucks.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22344 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

heroin is coming back strong


Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22344 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:21 am to
"This shite's got the elephant gun in it bro, one shot and you be down, so take it easy"
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:56 am to
Yeah that's the same batch from the article SFP posted. It's frickig Cincinnati and surrounding areas up right now.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:58 am to
I've had 2 friends die from OD in the past month. I'll be going to ones funeral this weekend.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:59 am to
quote:

it's a really bad system that developed and we're not dealing with it that well


How should we deal with it different than what we're doing?
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