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re: Here's a life lesson: Don't enroll into an online masters program at USC for $200K
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:25 am to Sterling Archer
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:25 am to Sterling Archer
quote:A Master's Degree is worth a lot of you choose the correct field to use it in. Why should USC stop offering it if some choose their career path poorly? That's not on the school. That's on the individual.
These schools also need to be held accountable for this. They shouldn’t be able to charge that much money for a worthless degree.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:47 am to SECdragonmaster
Sounds like she could (or may currently) work for a government or nonprofit and discharge these loans after 120 payments.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:48 am to Sterling Archer
Tuition bubble is a result of the free market. It’ll burst soon, but government intervention isn’t the answer.
Now, student loans are another story. Need more oversight there since they often come from government.
Now, student loans are another story. Need more oversight there since they often come from government.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 11:49 am to Street Hawk
It's an ecosystem of fraud.
Liberal university full of liberal professors telling you liberal things, rack up a bunch of debt, then a liberal politician comes along and takes care of it.
What a bunch of nice guys. You should vote for them.
Liberal university full of liberal professors telling you liberal things, rack up a bunch of debt, then a liberal politician comes along and takes care of it.
What a bunch of nice guys. You should vote for them.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:44 pm to Street Hawk
We need to abolish "graduate" degrees that aren't research based.
They're an academic abomination.
It's literally just paying for a degree.
They're an academic abomination.
It's literally just paying for a degree.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:50 pm to Steadyhands
I agree, also. I believe the fact that almost anyone can get a student loan for almost any amount is incentive for schools to charge whatever the heck they want. It's getting where it's too costly for a college education anywhere unless one obtains a student loan.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:53 pm to Privateer 2007
I know for a fact USC online does not cost 200k it’s about 1/4 of that.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:57 pm to Street Hawk
It's shocking. There were 600-something different employees at UGA who made at least 150,000 dollars in 2021.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:06 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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Wut? People make the choice to enroll.
People would make a choice to take out a loan for Ferrari or a mansion in Malibu if we just let them have it without any basis to determine whether they can actually pay for it. Student loans are out of control because there is no oversight on why schools are charging so much or based on ability to repay. With the taxpayer being left on the hook, there needs to be at least a moderate amount of accountability.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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When I shopped around for my M.Ed. I found the cheapest accredited program in state. Still had the same clinical training (and some of the same professors) as bigger programs in my state.
For some people, including some family members, I think it's a social thing. People want to tell. their friends their son/daughter went to so and so. Makes some people feel like it was worth it if they got a degree from certain institutions, even if there was utlimately a cheaper option.
It's not the mindset I have at all, but I have seen plenty of people who think this way.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:22 pm to SECdragonmaster
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2. The people with IQ’s above 100 have been bombarded by every teacher since KG telling them “you have to get a college degree”.
Unfortunately, nowadays, a lot of jobs have bachelor's or even Master's degrees as the minimum education requirement, even though it's completely unnecessary.
When job hunting a couple summers ago, it was incredible to me how many jobs required a bachelor's, despite it being completely unnecessary from a practical standpoint.
Even my current job requires a Master's, when a bachelor's would be 100% fine. It's absurd.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 1:52 pm to SECdragonmaster
The only time a really expensive graduate degree is worth it is if there's a lot of networking involved, and there are only a few of those.
Harvard has a masters in business program for non-traditional students that's only a year long with light course work, and it's basically a bunch of dudes who are really smart at business networking and bouncing ideas off of each other and figuring out how to make money next.
Harvard has a masters in business program for non-traditional students that's only a year long with light course work, and it's basically a bunch of dudes who are really smart at business networking and bouncing ideas off of each other and figuring out how to make money next.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 2:28 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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The only time a really expensive graduate degree is worth it is if there's a lot of networking involved, and there are only a few of those.
For the readers of this post who are not potential Nobel, Pulitzer, etc prize candidates (given OT reader caliber, this means very few), I generally agree. Be careful to not over generalize. Without doubt, “expensive” grad schools are the only avenues to high finance jobs, as one example. There are similar examples across the professional degree spectrum.
Who you are at 18yo (work ethic, motivation, talents) matters more than University letters on shirt at 22yo most of the time.
Lots of status value in university brands by the status hunters in this world. Lots of Tiger Moms have traded their kids’ “kid life” for this eventual status. No summers in Hong Kong Moms (study, study, study). Trading precious life…
Some legitimate value difference, however, many others not so much.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 2:49 pm to Privateer 2007
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We need to abolish "graduate" degrees that aren't research based. They're an academic abomination.
I can't think of a graduate degree that isn't researched based apart from degrees in fine arts (like getting an MFA in Dance for example to be a choreographer).
Everything else is researched based is it not?
Posted on 12/31/22 at 2:56 pm to Eurocat
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Everything else is researched based is it not?
Professional degrees like MD, DO, JD, DPM, etc. are graduate-level, non-research degrees.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 3:29 pm to Eurocat
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research based
If you don't get paid(via grants etc Teaching assistant research assistant) it's not real grad school.
If you pay tuition for grad school, it's just continued undergrad.
Posted on 12/31/22 at 3:35 pm to Privateer 2007
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If you don't get paid(via grants etc Teaching assistant research assistant) it's not real grad school. If you pay tuition for grad school, it's just continued undergrad.
I hate blanket statements like this.
So if I go next year and get a Harvard MBA (im not it’s just an example), then it’s a waste?
Posted on 12/31/22 at 3:38 pm to BearsFan
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MBA
It's not research.
That's the crux of graduate work.
Like 70% of Wharton school students thought median US income was like 100k.
Dont confuse connections with intelligence or true education.
Higher Ed has become a joke.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 12/31/22 at 3:44 pm to USMEagles
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professional degrees....MD, etc
No. They aren't graduate degrees.
They are professional degrees.
Big difference.
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