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re: Here's a budget breakdown of a couple that makes $200,000 a year and yet is scraping by

Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
It isn't too out there. I would make some tweaks and be fine. Reduce the 401k until the kids are in school. They are in CA. Vacation would be camping in the local national parks. Get clothes on trading pages. No charity. Reduce child lessons. At that point, I would explore one parent working part time to reduce daycare, and not sub out the raising of my child.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
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perhaps they should move farther out of the city?


At what cost? Increased fuel and car maintenance costs. Then you have to factor in time lost commuting. Not to mention that many suburbs in these types of areas really aren’t all that cheaper. You just get a little more bang for your buck.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36668 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
Yeah, for one car.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
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not to mention you can write off childcare


It's a credit and it's maxed at $600 per child at that income
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:22 am to
$1,000 a month on food for a family of three? They must be fat as frick.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57622 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:23 am to
The childcare, mortgage, vacations, clothes, and children’s lessons are pretty absurd.

3k a month mortgage, two $4,000 vacations, $2,000/month on childcare, $417/month on “children’s lessons”??, and $1,000 per year on clothes per person?

All this shows me is that this family is living right up against their means like so many others today.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:23 am to
By my calculations they have 35700 in disposable income.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:23 am to
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Get clothes on trading pages
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At that point, I would explore one parent working part time to reduce daycare, and not sub out the raising of my child.


Why? The math will never make that a better option.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:23 am to
They would not have a 30% effective tax rate if the have the 401(k) salary deferral, mortgage and property tax amounts shown. It would be closer to 20% than 30%.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:25 am to
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The childcare, mortgage, vacations, clothes, and children’s lessons are pretty absurd.

3k a month mortgage, two $4,000 vacations, $2,000/month on childcare, $417/month on “children’s lessons”??, and $1,000 per year on clothes per person?


It seems you're unfamiliar with cost of living in areas other than the south.
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All this shows me is that this family is living right up against their means like so many others today.


Every last expense including funding retirement and various insurances are included, and they still have almost $500 left over every month. They're doing everything right it seems, and the OT is still bitching. Classic.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5548 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:27 am to
I pay 1900 for 2 kids in daycare. 24k for 1?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84065 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:27 am to
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I pay 1900 for 2 kids in daycare. 24k for 1?




Where are you paying $950 per year per kid for day care?

ETA: And yes, I know what you meant. Get out of the south and realize that stuff doesn't cost the same everywhere.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:29 am
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:28 am to
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I honestly can't wait for your "So I knocked up Mrs. Pecker" thread


I think in 6-7 years when I'm 35 I'll have enough money and be comfortable enough that I could entertain the idea of having one child.

Mrs Pecker, on the other hand, I just don't see her getting there. She's anti-baby. It's a career thing for her too, as we've discussed many times.

Right now I want to buy fast cars and travel, not change diapers and smell bad things. At least I know that I'm not ready for a baby.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57622 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:28 am to
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It seems you're unfamiliar with cost of living in areas other than the south.


Only a few of those things are “necessary” things that are dependent on the location they live. If they didn’t want to be “scraping by” there’s several things they could cut down on.

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Every last expense including funding retirement and various insurances are included, and they still have almost $500 left over every month. They're doing everything right it seems, and the OT is still bitching. Classic.


I’m not the one who posted the article about how they’re “scraping by” - they’ve opened themselves up to criticism and scrutiny.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5099 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:29 am to
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its the max for 1 person.



I contribute 14%

My company does 10%
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58556 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:29 am to
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Didn't have to read past the first line to laugh. 24k for childcare


How many kids do they have? If they have two in daycare in SF, I don't see what's so unusual.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:30 am to
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Only a few of those things are “necessary” things that are dependent on the location they live. If they didn’t want to be “scraping by” there’s several things they could cut down on.


And yet you included them.
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I’m not the one who posted the article about how they’re “scraping by” - they’ve opened themselves up to criticism and scrutiny.


It's a hypothetical. Try reading.

And the fact that they aren't actually scraping by just makes your analysis of their situation worse.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57622 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:31 am to
One child. Idgaf if you’re in Dubai. For 24k a year, you could hire a stay-in nanny.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:31 am to
Haha what "lessons" are these kids getting. Send their arse to the Y.
Also, drop a vacation and ditch the car payment. Lastly, WTF is consumer debt and why is it in your budget?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:31 am to
I don't think those people know what "disposable income" means.
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