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re: here are the ten (!) options for a new MS river bridge
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:07 am to goofball
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:07 am to goofball
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And since the bridge crossing is the most difficult piece to plan and construction, we could pretty much design everything else around it unless they put it in an incredibly stupid place....like way the hell down in White Castle.
I don't really care if it's down there. That would allow new burbs to be even farther from BR, and controlled more locally, which is a good thing.
A straight line from the basin exit to the bridge, then to i12 east of denham somewhere to avoid the BR shite show is what's really needed.
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:18 am to TheFlyingTiger
Why not a bypass loop north of Baton Rouge above the ship traffic zone. Population density would be much lower and smaller boat spans would be faster construction.
Why not repave hwy 90 to a truck acceptable surface and reroute much of the traffic passing through BR
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:23 am to cgrand
Why not widen the old bridge and divert truck traffic?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:23 am to Trevaylin
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Why not a bypass loop north of Baton Rouge above the ship traffic zone. Population density would be much lower and smaller boat spans would be faster construction.
Mainly because no one on i10 is really going that way. Connecting 10 and 12 from the south keeps traffic flowing down that 10 corridor, and allows for the bypass to 12 for those that wish to avoid both NOLA and BR.
That connection could easily continue north then back west from there but again, there isn't much going on that direction.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:41 am to cgrand
The most sensible route will be just south of Addis , across Manchac Point, cross the river, on/off ramps at La 30. . Have an elevated section following along the south side of Bayou Manchac and tie into I-10 at LA 928.
The Bluebonnet tie won't happen, to many traffic lights slowing the traffic.
Also the U Club and CCLA will never allow a new major highway to cross them.
If this gets built no commercial businesses should be allowed to be built next to it(no Dollar Generals), also NO billboards( keeps pics of lawyers away from Bayou Manchac, and does not promote trashy Louisiana lifestyles).
The Bluebonnet tie won't happen, to many traffic lights slowing the traffic.
Also the U Club and CCLA will never allow a new major highway to cross them.
If this gets built no commercial businesses should be allowed to be built next to it(no Dollar Generals), also NO billboards( keeps pics of lawyers away from Bayou Manchac, and does not promote trashy Louisiana lifestyles).
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
quote:too close the best option is really LA1 near Bayou Goula
LA. 30 to Bluebonnet...but I would prefer a little further south
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:45 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:because why have a "loop" around BR exit in the middle of BR?
Well Ed or Coco already said Bluebonnet isn’t an option. Residents don’t want the extra traffic in their hood. Proof everyone becomes a NIMBY when it’s their yard that’s gonna be used
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:47 am to SantaFe
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The most sensible route will be just south of Addis , across Manchac Point, cross the river, on/off ramps at La 30. . Have an elevated section following along the south side of Bayou Manchac and tie into I-10 at LA 928.
You are never in a million years getting a highway built through Spanish Lake because of new age hippy environmental wetland laws.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:51 am to Topwater Trout
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LA. 30 to Bluebonnet...but I would prefer a little further south
150,000 vehicles cross the Miss Bridge a day
So when there’s a weekly wreck on the current bridge, you would want I-10 to be completely diverted down bluebonnet or the old bridge? Do you realize how many vehicles even half of that traffic is? They might as well just not build a new bridge if it will have to lead through south Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:52 am to CarRamrod
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because why have a "loop" around BR exit in the middle of BR?
I understand your point. But is this actually going to be a loop or just an alternative route over the river? Cause many of these locations appear to be just that. Another river crossing. Not an actual loop or bypass. Just a way to get the plant traffic home or to work. And I’m fine with that.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:55 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:well.....i know how incompetent the state is, but if you are going to spend a billion on a MS river crossing, it should be set up to become a crossing for a loop.
I understand your point. But is this actually going to be a loop or just an alternative route over the river? Cause many of these locations appear to be just that. Another river crossing. Not an actual loop or bypass. Just a way to get the plant traffic home or to work. And I’m fine with that.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:56 am to tigerinthebueche
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Well Ed or Coco already said Bluebonnet isn’t an option. Residents don’t want the extra traffic in their hood. Proof everyone becomes a NIMBY when it’s their yard that’s gonna be used
I don’t live near bluebonnet but it just makes zero sense to me as to why it’s still an option. It’s a terrible option for just everyday 5pm traffic, let’s throw another 25,000-75,000+ vehicles a day at it and see what happens
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:01 am to cgrand
Addis would be optimal
Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:32 am to TheFlyingTiger
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I don't really care if it's down there. That would allow new burbs to be even farther from BR, and controlled more locally, which is a good thing.
A straight line from the basin exit to the bridge, then to i12 east of denham somewhere to avoid the BR shite show is what's really needed.
I like the idea of extending 3127 from Donaldsonville all the way up to the Audubon Bridge. Make it a freeway grade road, then connect each bridge it passes to it with an interchange. Maybe not this route exactly, but something pretty similar.
So if you are stuck on I-10 headed east into Baton Rouge, you can just exit on 3127 somewhere west of LA415, and take this new bridge. Or if you are going to New Orleans, go all the way down to the Sunshine bridge or even Gramarcy or Luling.
To route back to I-12, that same person can take the same exit to 3127 northbound to US 190, then cross on the old bridge, and take a much improved Airline highway to I-12.
They'd need to make Airline more efficient with wider lanes, fewer lights, and overpasses over the rail road tracks for this to work.
If someone heading into Baton Rouge from the west were going beyond Baton Rouge towards I-55 and hit traffic on I-10, they can take the same exit northbound from I-10, go up to the Audubon bridge, and take LA10 to I-55 around Kentwood. LA10 is another road that we should beef up if we can. Probably LA16 too.
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:22 am to Trevaylin
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Why not a bypass loop north of Baton Rouge above the ship traffic zone. Population density would be much lower and smaller boat spans would be faster construction
Why not both?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:31 am to kingbob
Because here in Louisiana, we are only allowed one nice thing every 50 years.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:35 am to The Boat
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The most sensible route will be just south of Addis , across Manchac Point, cross the river, on/off ramps at La 30. . Have an elevated section following along the south side of Bayou Manchac and tie into I-10 at LA 928.
You are never in a million years getting a highway built through Spanish Lake because of new age hippy environmental wetland laws.
And that is why I said "elevated section" along Bayou Manchac.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:38 am to goofball
This is a good idea because it doesn't cross too many wetlands . Only thing is it would probably cost about $10 Billion dollars. I mean we would be building another interstate.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:39 am to SantaFe
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The most sensible route will be just south of Addis , across Manchac Point, cross the river, on/off ramps at La 30. . Have an elevated section following along the south side of Bayou Manchac and tie into I-10 at LA 928.
You are never in a million years getting a highway built through Spanish Lake because of new age hippy environmental wetland laws.
Either that or run it along side the power lines to I-10 somewhere north of the Gonzales/LA30 exit.
I'm skeptical that they'll let anything get built over Spanish Lake.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:47 am to goofball
I say this every time this come out. Supposedly the problem is traffic from I-10 trying to get to I-12 to go to Atlanta. If you complete 3127 from Boutte to Gross Tete, the majority of the right-of way is bought and paid for. Your would only need to run from Gross Tete to Donaldsonville and from Gross Tete to the Audubon bridge. There is a roadway on that end, but it would need to be straightened and expanded, but 3127 has the land to be 4 laned all the way. That would give acces to every bridge that touches I-10 all the way to Boutte, you could eliminate I-12 traffic by completing I-55 to LaPlace that gives any trucks, etc. Access to all the routes around Baton Rouge. Make it a toll road, most trucks would gladly use it to get out of Baton Rouge. So you build that first and then you make the new bridge access it. That should have been the priority years ago. The only things it would effect are canefields and swamps, no real towns. Also, you would have to divert access to 3127 to service roads or ramps, but this seems like a "No Brainer". It just isn't in the Parishes with all the political clout. It touches all the bridges from St Francisville to Boutte so there is no reason traffic that wasn't required to go in to Baton Rouge, wouldn't bypass it. It would also reduce the traffic going through Baton Rouge significantly, leaving no need for a bypass from Livingston. Any traffic going West or North could bypass BR altogether.
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