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Help me diagnose my A/C issue...condensing unit not turning on...

Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:29 pm
So, this is the scenario I have observed with my A/C unit. The system will be working fine, cooling the house at normal temp (eg, 72)...and then at some time during day, the house will get warm but the fan is still running...I go outside and the condensing unit has stopped (hence the lack of cold air coming out). I go to turn the system off at the Thermostat and the fan will run for hours before stopping.

Is the sign of a bad thermostat?

After stopping and being off for some time, I will turn the system back on and the system will work fine for a while (ie, house will cool down again) before the condensing unit stops working again.

Thermostat probably 6-7 years old.

Thoughts?
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Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27679 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:22 pm to
this is note from maintenance visit:

Residential Service customer made service call because upstairs ac

was not working. Upon arrival applied demand for ac on upstairs Tstat.

System was operating as intended. While inspecting outdoor unit the 24

volts at contactor was lost. Made sure all electrical connections were

good at outdoor unit. Then went to indoor unit and made sure all

electrical connections were good. Also removed Tstat from wall to

ensure all low volt wires were in proper place. Did not find any electrical

faults. Reinstalled Tstat on wall applied cooling demand gave unit 30

minutes of run time and did not lose 24 volts again. If we are called

again by homeowner within 30 day for same issue no service fee will be

applied.
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Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:30 pm to
You call Kulunda yet?
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9095 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:31 pm to
bad contactor maybe?

Was it making a loud buzzing sound in the past when it clicked on?
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:31 pm to
Did you check for frozen lines?

I'd have a hard time thinking a low voltage machine like a thermostat would work intermittently.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39043 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:31 pm to
Had this same problem with my guest house AC. Buddy of mine who is an AC guy said the capacitor was bad. He changed it and now it works.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:31 pm to
Sounds like it's freezing-up, thawing, then freezing-up again.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:32 pm to
bad Capacitor or Contactor



Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159354 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Had this same problem with my guest house AC. Buddy of mine who is an AC guy said the capacitor was bad. He changed it and now it works.


The Chinese must be laughing their asses off because I've never had this issue prior to the past couple of years. I just replaced one of mine too.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18355 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:32 pm to
I could be completely wrong but my first suspicion would be that the coils are freezing over, and the condensing unit has some auto shut-off feature. I would clean the coils and see if that helps, as it probably needs to happen anyway.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I go to turn the system off at the Thermostat and the fan will run for hours before stopping.
Sounds like condenser is overheating and your safety shutoffs are kicking in. (I had a similar problem but not exact). Mine wasn't cooling at all.

So in summary, disregard my entire post.
Posted by moon
USA
Member since Dec 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:35 pm to
I have this same issue happening now.

My A/C guy was out yesterday and it's my control panel on the furnace/blower unit inside. He had to order a new one.

It could be that capacitor though. I've seen that happen before.

Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27966 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Thoughts?


Call a repairman. Sounds like a capacitor.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:37 pm to
Chicken You see the brown plastic piece in the middle of this picture? You can press it in with a screwdriver once the unit stops. If it comes on then you're either not getting the signal from the t-stat to trip it or it's just a bad contactor.

Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:37 pm to
Check for ants in the contactor. Seen that a lot when I worked in hvac.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Call a repairman. Sounds like a capacitor.
$15 part at an AC parts house.

Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:41 pm to
Your outside unit needs to be cleaned.

Leave it off for a couple of hours so the ice that formed on your attic cooling unit melts.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27679 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Sounds like it's freezing-up, thawing, then freezing-up again.
no, not the case...A/C guy came out and checked everything and couldn't see anything obviously wrong...that is why I am leaning to thermostat.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:43 pm to
Sounds like you need the capacitor replaced.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:46 pm to
Flux Capicitor. For the win Signed Doc and Marty
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39043 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:48 pm to
So if it's the capacitor and I was the first to diagnose it, do I get a month of immunity?
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