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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:59 am to Duke
Posted on 9/29/24 at 11:59 am to Duke
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It's not so much defending as trying to figure out why y'all are this bent out of shape, given the logistical situation in Western NC.
WTF does logistics have to do with on air reporting?
So just because they can't drive up to the town they are just not going to report on it?
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:00 pm to deltaland
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Fabricate temporary bridges and such.
Heard they are in the process of doing this. Need to be able to have the main highways open to get in but already stated temp bridges will be put in place
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:03 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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WTF does logistics have to do with on air reporting?
If we can’t get ahold of our friends, neighbors and relatives how the hell do you expect a reporter to?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:03 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Met with Team Rubicon volunteers in Pasco County and thanked them for their efforts to help local residents in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene.
The State of Florida also announced that we are mobilizing hundreds of travel trailers for residents who had their homes damaged by the storm, so they can live comfortably on-site while renovations and repairs are underway.
To apply for a travel trailer through @FLSERT, call the HOPE LINE at 1-833-GET-HOPE.
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:03 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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That has frick all to do with reporting & covering a domestic natural disaster currently taking place Actually makes it look worse on the MSM for giving it little to no on air coverage that there are whole towns that can not be reached because of the devastation They have zero problems reporting from the craters of bombs in war torn 3rd world shitholes but can't setup a press tent nearby or draw any eyeballs to just how bad the people of Eastern TN Western NC & North GA are suffering
CNN reports from all over the world, including war zones, by sending their reporters to those places. Those reporters talk to locals, find out what they can, then fire up the camera and report back. That’s how that works.
CNN reporters literally can’t get into the mountains right now. After Katrina, reporters could get in boats and go around New Orleans. There’s no equivalent to that with the mountains outside of parachuting in. People might think helicopters are in option, but we have no idea if the ground is structurally sound enough to support the weight of a landed helicopter.
If you wanna complain that there should be more live air time covering this, then I agree with you. But a place like CNN literally can’t do the thing they normally do right now.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:03 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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So just because they can't drive up to the town they are just not going to report on it?
Then what would they be reporting on? The handful of videos we've gotten out so far? Spam the same emergency phone numbers? Catch some exhausted official once every 10-12 hours?
There's no communications. There's no power. There's barely running water.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:04 pm to Prof
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If we can’t get ahold of our friends, neighbors and relatives how the hell do you expect a reporter to?
You realize you are making my argument with more reasons as to why the MSM should be reporting more live on air on this right?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:06 pm to VOLhalla
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CNN reports from all over the world, including war zones, by sending their reporters to those places. Those reporters talk to locals, find out what they can, then fire up the camera and report back. That’s how that works. CNN reporters literally can’t get into the mountains right now. After Katrina, reporters could get in boats and go around New Orleans. There’s no equivalent to that with the mountains outside of parachuting in. People might think helicopters are in option, but we have no idea if the ground is structurally sound enough to support the weight of a landed helicopter. If you wanna complain that there should be more live air time covering this, then I agree with you. But a place like CNN literally can’t do the thing they normally do right now.
Thank you. This is absolutely it.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:06 pm to Duke
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Then what would they be reporting on? The handful of videos we've gotten out so far? Spam the same emergency phone numbers? Catch some exhausted official once every 10-12 hours?
There's no communications. There's no power. There's barely running water.
Just frick it
frick those people
Yall can have it
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:06 pm to real turf fan
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(10:30 AM) - 10 killed, at least 1,000 unaccounted for in Buncombe County.
Sheriff Quentin Miller announces that 10 people have been killed in Buncombe County and around 1,000 are currently unaccounted for. Miller says that the names of the deceased will not be released until county officials are certain that next of kin are contacted first.
The real issue is not Buncombe County it is going to be 30+ other mountain counties surrounding Asheville that will have the biggest loss. There may be financial damage to Asheville and Buncombe County but the surrounding counties will be devastated.
In 2004 I remember them finding missing bodies a year or two down the road in different watersheds. Even one in GA IIRC.
The issue is the focus will be on Asheville but the surrounding area will not recover as quickly or at all.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:09 pm to TideWarrior
There are whole towns literally gone the infrastructure is gone, bridges that cut off many small towns with good manufacturing industry. The roads are a complete destruction. Tornados are bad but the flooding does not discriminate, bridges take time to build and when there are no roads to get to the bridge it’s gonna be built is a huge issue it’s gonna be a while prob a few years to get the bridges built.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:11 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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That is why it deserves more attention you dense frick
Here I was, being civil. Especially after all the damn threads we've been in.
Guess I know what all that gets me.
Sigh, so don't know why this is so hard to understand but you need new info. You need people's stories to tell this story to the masses. And right now, how are you supposed to tell that story if you can't get info out of there?
Yes, they could spend more time mentioning how much shite sucks in NC but that's about all you can reasonably ask. 24/7, people are simply going to check out bc it's the same 15 minutes of info over and over again.
The real test is going to be if anyone is talking about this in two weeks.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:16 pm to TideWarrior
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The issue is the focus will be on Asheville but the surrounding area will not recover as quickly or at all.
This. People don’t understand that even in good times the resources don’t exist outside of the cities. This is Appalachia. Trying to understand it if you haven’t lived it is like trying to understand how Elon Musk lives. It’s a different world.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:16 pm to Duke
This is today from Greene County in TN.
Kinser Bridge
A few more pics of the area
Kinser Bridge
A few more pics of the area
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:16 pm to VOLhalla
Can yall stop bickering about media coverage. You’re making it difficult for posters to get news/information from thus thread because they have to wade through pages of bullshite to find it
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:20 pm to Cracker
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This is a flood event that will geographically alter the landscape and water drainages for hundreds and/or thousands of years to come.
The geography wont' change. That's part of the bedrock problem. This isn't the Yellow River in China that diverted through soft sediments multiple times.
These are drainage patterns that evolved and cut down as the moutains rose and eroded. If you use Google maps and look at the road maps versus the map with topography, you will be so scared for the people who live along the smaller rivers that have cut down, but had no flood planes. All this storm will do is move some rocks and boulders down the stream, wash some topsoil off of the mountainsides, undercut some old landslides making them unstable (big shudder at this not being over as the soils cascade down hill).
We can hope that those without water can find springs rejuvenated by the huge rapid rain. That they know how to dig a pit toilet down hill from the springs, that they have propane to boil their water, and that they have some of their winter supplies that are so necessary when snow cuts off access to town.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:21 pm to TideWarrior
Being reported the Nolichucky Dam took 1.2 million gallons of water per second during the peak of the flooding. Almost double what Niagara Falls takes during peak each year. And the dam held. Imagine roaring down the valley by your house and remember it is connecting with all those other rivers like the French Broad, Pigeon, Holsten, and Swannanoa on its way to the Tennessee
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:24 pm to TideWarrior
Greene County is going to work as fast as possible to restore water but this is what is left of the water intake that provide water for the county.
It looks like the river went right over it by the mud on the roof.
It looks like the river went right over it by the mud on the roof.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:25 pm to TideWarrior
It’s a national embarrassment that this isn’t front page news everywhere
Asheville city council members are going on Twitter begging cnn, fox, abc, cbs, nbc, etc to cover it so that people nationwide can donate.
Lots of frustration that this isn’t dominating airwaves like Nola/katrina was
Asheville city council members are going on Twitter begging cnn, fox, abc, cbs, nbc, etc to cover it so that people nationwide can donate.
Lots of frustration that this isn’t dominating airwaves like Nola/katrina was
Posted on 9/29/24 at 12:26 pm to TideWarrior
I feel like I should salute that dam. I know we would have had even bigger problems if it hadn’t held and TVA even alerted us that a breach was imminent. It’s a miracle that it held. It really is.
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