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re: Heated Fight Over 'Legroom Gadget' Forces United Flight to Land
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:13 pm to Golfer
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:13 pm to Golfer
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United premium economy
Sat in those once and the seats were not comfortable at all and they didn't recline. Maybe it was the plane
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:19 pm to Napoleon
Being served drinks before people board and stuff just makes me feel like they are trying to pretend first class is more important than others . I really don't need to pay extra for that. A bottle of water is probably all I need. But getting through security, boarding and de-boarding first, and getting enough elbow room make it worth it. Plus the person sitting next to you is much less likely to be a fat slob.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:24 pm to KG6
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Plus the person sitting next to you is much less likely to be a fat slob.
Not true... I am generally up there
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:30 pm to KG6
I like to drink when I fly. Just me.
Free Liquor makes it better.
nothing beats taking off with a buzz already.
The second flight on my leg, there were 11 big guys in first class and one pissy Egyptian guy in row 5 (first row of steerage class). We all "had the talk" that was funny but I was down he was so loud on his phone the entire time in the terminal I couldn't hear a thing. Then to have him cursing and yelling in Arabic or something. Also our attendant looked like Chris Tucker and had us cracking up the whole time.
My first time on US Airways. Two hour plus delays, but the upgrade to seats 2a and later 2f were worth it.
Free Liquor makes it better.
nothing beats taking off with a buzz already.
The second flight on my leg, there were 11 big guys in first class and one pissy Egyptian guy in row 5 (first row of steerage class). We all "had the talk" that was funny but I was down he was so loud on his phone the entire time in the terminal I couldn't hear a thing. Then to have him cursing and yelling in Arabic or something. Also our attendant looked like Chris Tucker and had us cracking up the whole time.
My first time on US Airways. Two hour plus delays, but the upgrade to seats 2a and later 2f were worth it.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:34 pm to Napoleon
I'm flying Spirit Saturday morning to Houston
Hopefully their exit row seat it worth a shite
Hopefully their exit row seat it worth a shite
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:36 pm to kywildcatfanone
Do tall people have some odd need to place their legs where most people rest their heads? Last I checked, these are RECLINING seats that recline the head back, not sliding seats that slide the arse back into anyone's knees.
I don't see the big whoop about reclining your seat back one notch. It doesn't bother me in the slightest when someone reclines in front of me, unless they do a violent and/or spastic recline and spill my drink.
I don't see the big whoop about reclining your seat back one notch. It doesn't bother me in the slightest when someone reclines in front of me, unless they do a violent and/or spastic recline and spill my drink.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:36 pm to Napoleon
The service is nice, I'm not saying it isn't. Just don't feel the need to pay for it. The room and convenience are what makes the upgrade worn it. And drunk flying is MUCH better than sober flying.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:39 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
Am I the only one who initially read "legroom" similar to lebron?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:40 pm to KG6
I'm a bargain flyer. So every flight I have ever had has been the cheapest option to my destination.
I just got lucky this last time, and now I think I am spoiled.
I just got lucky this last time, and now I think I am spoiled.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:33 am to Monk
Unfortunately Monk, that's not how the seats work. The recline pivots at the base of the chair backing. This lessens the amount of space around the knees on some flights.
The seats recline so I don't complain. The airline has given them that right. However, there is no way their benefit is larger than what they take away from the passengers behind them. I wonder, however, if the ability for seats to recline is just something that has been there since the time the seats were spaced further from one another. Perhaps no airline wants to risk removing the function for fear of being the airline with seats that don't recline?
I think my bigger flying issue is when my seat reclines on its own. It is pretty annoying to have the flight attendant bother me to move my seat upright when I am sleeping and I did not put it down in the first place.
If you fly enough, regardless of status or airline, you will have issues with something on a flight eventually. You just have to suck it up and make the best of it. There are only a few times it is inconvenient to be tall and this is one of them.
The seats recline so I don't complain. The airline has given them that right. However, there is no way their benefit is larger than what they take away from the passengers behind them. I wonder, however, if the ability for seats to recline is just something that has been there since the time the seats were spaced further from one another. Perhaps no airline wants to risk removing the function for fear of being the airline with seats that don't recline?
I think my bigger flying issue is when my seat reclines on its own. It is pretty annoying to have the flight attendant bother me to move my seat upright when I am sleeping and I did not put it down in the first place.
If you fly enough, regardless of status or airline, you will have issues with something on a flight eventually. You just have to suck it up and make the best of it. There are only a few times it is inconvenient to be tall and this is one of them.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:13 am to Cypdog
This topic comes up every once in awhile and it's always two schools of thought.
1. Every one who reclines a seat is an a-hole to the person behind them, or
2. Every one who complains about someone utilizing a feature that is installed in a seat they paid for is an a-hole.
Either way, what we have here with this "device" is a breakdown in the social aspect most humans should have and that is the ability to communicate with a stranger and discuss the options. Instead, we live in an "a-hole" culture where they don't want to converse but rather take matters into their own hand and install an "illegal" device to offset their imminent discomfort.
In my opinion, if you are tall and require more knee space, be proactive and buy an emergency exit or first row seat; complaining that someone is encroaching on your space by tilting their chair back 1-2 inches is ridiculous. Also, if you hate reclining chairs, fly Spirit Airlines where no seats lean back.
I personally fall asleep better when I can recline a bit, pull my carry on under my legs and stretch out; I paid for the seat and either checked-in earlier than you(Southwest) or purchased my ticket earlier to receive that seat. If you don't want me to recline, ask me not to but installing a device so you don't have to feel embarrassment over talking to me is horseshite.
Also, I imagine people that complain about this are the same people who have a problem with someone standing at a rock concert/sporting event when they want to sit the entire time. Once again, I bought my ticket and I plan to take advantage of it's use in a way I see fit.
1. Every one who reclines a seat is an a-hole to the person behind them, or
2. Every one who complains about someone utilizing a feature that is installed in a seat they paid for is an a-hole.
Either way, what we have here with this "device" is a breakdown in the social aspect most humans should have and that is the ability to communicate with a stranger and discuss the options. Instead, we live in an "a-hole" culture where they don't want to converse but rather take matters into their own hand and install an "illegal" device to offset their imminent discomfort.
In my opinion, if you are tall and require more knee space, be proactive and buy an emergency exit or first row seat; complaining that someone is encroaching on your space by tilting their chair back 1-2 inches is ridiculous. Also, if you hate reclining chairs, fly Spirit Airlines where no seats lean back.
I personally fall asleep better when I can recline a bit, pull my carry on under my legs and stretch out; I paid for the seat and either checked-in earlier than you(Southwest) or purchased my ticket earlier to receive that seat. If you don't want me to recline, ask me not to but installing a device so you don't have to feel embarrassment over talking to me is horseshite.
Also, I imagine people that complain about this are the same people who have a problem with someone standing at a rock concert/sporting event when they want to sit the entire time. Once again, I bought my ticket and I plan to take advantage of it's use in a way I see fit.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:17 am to BACONisMEATcandy
Someone needs to develop a device that prevent the lowering of the window cover. I hate people who take the window seat and immediately close it.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:25 am to Boudreaux35
Why don't you just get a window seat?
Also you cannot "buy" an exit row seat on all airlines ahead of time. only offered to FF's until you are closer to departure
Also you cannot "buy" an exit row seat on all airlines ahead of time. only offered to FF's until you are closer to departure
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:35 am to link
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This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:52 am to BACONisMEATcandy
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Using a banned device and not complying with a reasonable request
Doesn't much matter whether it's reasonable, a flight crew's legal authority is almost limitless while on board. Disobeying instructions whether reasonable or not is a fairly serious criminal offense.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:06 am to tiddlesmcdiddles
This is one of the most common arguments out there and there are people passionate about both sides, and one side will never convince the other that they are right.
The airlines consistently side with the recliner.
How they do... I have no fricking idea, honestly.
To me, if you have to recline your seat back and limit my already tiny space on the plane, you're being a baby. We're all uncomfortable on the flight. We all have a microscopic personal space on the plane. Suck it up for two hours. I mean, if you reline your enormous head into my lap, you're expecting me to man up and just deal with it, right?
"Just recline your seat back, then." - it's not about me reclining backward. I obviously don't need it. The issue is you're in my space forward of me.
But like I said before, according to the airlines, that space is not my space. It's actually yours.
So my opinion doesn't matter for shite. But I'll still say it anyway.
Pussies.
The airlines consistently side with the recliner.
How they do... I have no fricking idea, honestly.
To me, if you have to recline your seat back and limit my already tiny space on the plane, you're being a baby. We're all uncomfortable on the flight. We all have a microscopic personal space on the plane. Suck it up for two hours. I mean, if you reline your enormous head into my lap, you're expecting me to man up and just deal with it, right?
"Just recline your seat back, then." - it's not about me reclining backward. I obviously don't need it. The issue is you're in my space forward of me.
But like I said before, according to the airlines, that space is not my space. It's actually yours.
So my opinion doesn't matter for shite. But I'll still say it anyway.
Pussies.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:26 am to SpqrTiger
I don't fly that often, but when I'm booking I usually notice that he 1st class ticket prices are double what I'm paying in economy. Unless it was a really long flight, I don't see how it's worth the money at all, even with some free booze and a fancier bag of chips.
I guess for most, their employer is paying for it.
I guess for most, their employer is paying for it.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:34 am to kywildcatfanone
Most are just upgraded for free with their elite status. I'd say on your average 2 hour flight it looks like this:
- status upgrades
- last minute purchases where the coach price was more or very close to the first class price
- pax who are flying international for business or pleasure but paid/upgraded with miles to first for the comfort of the longer travel
- status upgrades
- last minute purchases where the coach price was more or very close to the first class price
- pax who are flying international for business or pleasure but paid/upgraded with miles to first for the comfort of the longer travel
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:03 am to SpqrTiger
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To me, if you have to recline your seat back and limit my already tiny space on the plane, you're being a baby. We're all uncomfortable on the flight. We all have a microscopic personal space on the plane. Suck it up for two hours. I mean, if you reline your enormous head into my lap, you're expecting me to man up and just deal with it, right?
"Just recline your seat back, then." - it's not about me reclining backward. I obviously don't need it. The issue is you're in my space forward of me.
But like I said before, according to the airlines, that space is not my space. It's actually yours.
So my opinion doesn't matter for shite. But I'll still say it anyway.
Pussies.
I've fly pretty regularly, mostly on smallish SW 737s or AA M80s between DAL/DFW and MSY. I'm a 6'1", 180 lb male. I rarely recline my seat, but I have never had an issue with the person in front on me reclining. A two-inch recline isn't that big of deal and it doesn't even come close to infringing on my already small space. Quit being a bitch or fly an airline that doesn't have reclining seats.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:16 am to BACONisMEATcandy
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Why don't you just get a window seat?
90% of my travel is last minute for work. By the time I book a flight, the window seats are usually long gone. If they're available, I usually take one. I usually end up with middle seats between 2 fatasses or some thug with his flatbill on sideways and sticker still on the bill.
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