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re: Health Care Exec Busted for Illegal 153-Person Grand Canyon Hike
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:05 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:05 am to Salmon
Also with the Grand Canyon....rescues of people at the bottom are not an easy thing. Permits/limits help the park rangers better be able to give assistance to those at the bottom.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:07 am to Salmon
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a lot of people in this thread have never been backpacking in our National Parks it seems
To be fair, you can’t write an article that specifically goes out of the way to mention masks and social distancing.. and then turn around and call the people who react idiots because the restrictions aren’t about Covid.
If the restrictions have nothing to do with covid, maybe don’t publish an article that mentions Covid?
I swear it’s like both sides do the stupidest shite to get reactions from each other. You KNOW people are going to react to throwing that shite in there.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:08 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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That’s Max Patch
I'm aware.
There is also no permit for hike Max Patch.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:11 am to LouisianaLady
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You KNOW people are going to react to throwing that shite in there.
well yeah...outrage sells
which is why its usually best to do a little more research than reading 1 article about something before forming a super strong opinion
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:13 am to Salmon
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You're wrong.
They wouldn't allow 153 on the trail at the same time even if they were all in smaller groups.
No, you're wrong. The story literally says there were multiple park ranger run ins (4 actually I believe) the day/s of the hike and that none of them stopped the groups or checked their permits or anything during the hike. Everything is being done retroactively, when they were all but caught during the hike.
So I'm trying to figure out what the huge issue here is when the park rangers never stopped them.
ETA:" A third park ranger manning a separate station in the area, stated, “In my 7 months of work... I have never have [sic] witnesses so many individuals traveling in the same direction in such a condensed period of time and space.”
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:15 am to lsuhunt555
quote:I don’t think that is why he faces the charges. But following rules is hard. And people keep emphasizing federal, what other kind could they be in a federal park?
frick any individual that thinks federal charges is a proportional response for not wearing a mask on a hike. Seriously, you deserve to be beaten with a wet chain if you agree with this.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:17 am to baldona
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No, you're wrong.
No. They would not permit that many people to be on the trail at that time.
If the park rangers didn't do their jobs, then that is something different.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:20 am to lsunurse
The NP permit system is a disaster. If you are planning a trip you better hope you can beat the bots in grabbing a couple of permits when the order system opens, otherwise you are going to have to just show up and hope you can get a limited number of first-come first-server permits. On multiple occasions I've slept on the porch of permit offices just to have the chance to get one.
I think what this thread is about though, is the article making a big deal out of the social distancing aspect and:
I think what this thread is about though, is the article making a big deal out of the social distancing aspect and:
quote:
Mount, 34, now faces five misdemeanor counts: knowingly giving a false or fictitious report; intentionally interfering with a government employee while engaged in official duties; soliciting business in a park area without a permit; violating the normal group size limit; and violating COVID-19 mitigation group size limits.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:22 am to LoneStar23
Had COVID19 never existed, this frick head would still be getting charges. He was WAY above the limit and then lied about it and actively tried to skirt the rules.
You can't have hikes that big in national parks. It's a big no-no and for good reason. It's terrible for the environment and ruins the experience for others out there.
The article is trying to make this just about COVID, but it's really not.
ETA:
I agree the permit system is shite as poster above said, but even if it wasn't, they wouldn't give him close to a 153 man permit. Not even close.
You can't have hikes that big in national parks. It's a big no-no and for good reason. It's terrible for the environment and ruins the experience for others out there.
The article is trying to make this just about COVID, but it's really not.
ETA:
I agree the permit system is shite as poster above said, but even if it wasn't, they wouldn't give him close to a 153 man permit. Not even close.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:24 am to phunkatron
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Nah, he willingly put those 153 people at undue risk
Was he also charged with 153 counts of kidnapping?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:27 am to McVick
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If five groups of 30 people applied for permits to hike the same trail on the exact days NPS would deny the majority of requests.
I feel the people who don't see a problem with what the accused did haven't planned a rim-to-rim trip in the Grand Canyon.
But that’s the peoples land!!!!!! They should be able to hike on it if they want to!!!
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:29 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:just look left and right when driving La roads. You can’t let our fellow Americans go anywhere unchecked without them screwing it up.
But that’s the peoples land!!!!!! They should be able to hike on it if they want to!!!
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:29 am to Salmon
I see people enjoying THEIR public land. If you don’t want to hang out with crowds perhaps you should hike a bit farther back.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:32 am to McVick
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Mount, 34, now faces five misdemeanor counts: knowingly giving a false or fictitious report; intentionally interfering with a government employee while engaged in official duties; soliciting business in a park area without a permit; violating the normal group size limit; and violating COVID-19 mitigation group size limits.
He's still be charged with a Covid crime.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:33 am to lsuhunt555
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frick any individual that thinks federal charges is a proportional response for not wearing a mask on a hike. Seriously, you deserve to be beaten with a wet chain if you agree with this.
No, frick pussies like you who are law and order guys if the perp is black, but you are all for the law breakers if it suits your political narrative.
These guys broke the law. They broke laws that have nothing to do with masks or Covid. They should pay the price. Additionally, they broke laws that are Covid related and stupid - but they are still laws (or rules, I’m not sure which).
You are a fine example of The Cowardly Conservative. He can be identified by two main things:
1. He becomes what he deplores as soon as it fits his narrative.
2. He is brave when confronted with a moderately pernicious virus, but he cowers in fear of a benign vaccine.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:35 am to Penrod
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No, frick pussies like you who are law and order guys if the perp is black, but you are all for the law breakers if it suits your political narrative
Well black people can't hike the grand canyon because hiking is racist.
But they can riot without masks. Don't see why you can't hike without a mask.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:36 am to dgnx6
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Don't see why you can't hike without a mask
Me neither. I’ve been hiking the Rockies all during the pandemic, and I never wear a mask.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:36 am to Penrod
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. He is brave when confronted with a moderately pernicious virus, but he cowers in fear of a benign vaccine.
I will not take a Trump vaccine.
Every Liberal.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:37 am to sawtooth
our National Parks are one of the few things that our government has done mostly right
part of that is managing the parks and trying to keep the environment and the landscape unimpaired as much as reasonably possible, while still allowing people to enjoy them
we have lots of National Forest land out there that is free for all and do almost as we please, but our National Parks were designated for a reason and I have no problem with managing them so that my kids and grandkids will be able to enjoy them as I have
part of that is managing the parks and trying to keep the environment and the landscape unimpaired as much as reasonably possible, while still allowing people to enjoy them
we have lots of National Forest land out there that is free for all and do almost as we please, but our National Parks were designated for a reason and I have no problem with managing them so that my kids and grandkids will be able to enjoy them as I have
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:38 am to Penrod
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Me neither. I’ve been hiking the Rockies all during the pandemic, and I never wear a mask.
So you do know most people aren't really like, yeah he should bring 1000 people if they want. Just hit him with the other charges and leave covid out of it.
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