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re: Having a shitty grad school research advisor

Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by LintLicker
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2017
609 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
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lsuprof


Thank you for your input. Your perspective really helps.

This guy is my research mentor/advisor. I haven't started the program yet but I am getting my coursework lined out for the upcoming term.

He is also the reason I joined this program bc his research directly supports my occupation and unfortunately no one else does the research he does at the university.

He's a great scholar from what I can tell but is very inconsiderate with other people's time.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Is it ever appropriate to respectfully call him out on this or am I just destined to be taken advantage of until I finish this program?



Switch advisors. Talk to you program chair/director/coordinator ASAP.

Don't call him out, that's a breach of protocol. But it is perfectly acceptable to switch advisors if you feel you aren't getting the attention you need to be successful in your field. Don't overthink it, and don't make it a big dramatic thing by gossiping about it.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:17 pm to
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ETA: This guy is actually who I'm going to be doing my research with. He is the reason I joined this program. Not just an advisor for courses.


Missed this part. Makes it trickier. But I would still consider switching advisors.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16364 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:47 pm to
Appealing to the graduate director and then the chair is always a choice, but since this is the person you'd be working with, that could prove toxic.

Best advice is to explain your frustrations to him and state plainly how his actions have affected you. There's no excuse for him to be that hard to schedule or to blow you off. No telling what's going on in his life, but unless you want to go through the trouble of switching advisers, being direct with him about the situation is the best approach.

EDT: I'm a prof myself at another SEC school.

We had a big-name, but complete a-hole, on faculty (since passed him off to an endowed chair position at 10rc. The chair's letter of recommendation for him to get that spot was two pages of complete bullshite that 10rc bought). He used to teach graduate classes with his back turned to the students. Anyway, he refused to meet with students, would return dissertation chapter submissions with nothing more than "This is crap" written across the front page, was completely rude to students, and even started locking classroom doors because he hated students being late (I don't like them being late either, but locking the door and having them knocking on the door outside was an even bigger distraction).

Anyway, the one PhD student who got somewhere with him (older student) did so by going into his office, looking him in the eye, and asking, "Is there something wrong with me or you? This isn't supposed to be how the professor/student relation is supposed to work." Once called on it, the guy was less of an a-hole. Still an a-hole, though.
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 12:49 pm to
Yup, failed my thesis defense because of it.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 2:02 pm to
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There is a third possibility: double advisors
This is what my ex did for her PhD, but she actually ended up working with someone at another university instead of the same school. Her original advisor was banging one of his students, got caught, and became too distracted to do anything
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23199 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 2:15 pm to
Maybe he simply doesn’t like you and enjoys fricking with you and your schedule.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 2:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Kimist
Member since Nov 2011
512 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 2:41 pm to
Delicate situation. I would advise talking cordially to him as others have said, pointing out the effects his actions are having on you. Base your actions on those responses.

If the response is positive, I would definitely give him another chance, but be on the watch for further similar behavior, depending on the explanation you get. Professors lives can be as complicated as anyone else's. However, there are those who have no business mentoring graduate students.

If you are dissatisfied with the response, I would consider changing advisors. Having an antagonistic relationship with your graduate advisor, especially a poor one, could be disastrous and I would not risk it. Perhaps someone else would still be able to direct you in the same research area.

I was fortunate to have a good relationship with my advisor, but am aware that clashes and some ill effects can occur.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Professors lives can be as complicated as anyone else's
No-showing twice, and rescheduling four or five times is inexcusable. No normal, responsible person would do that. Based on that alone, I think it's a pattern that won't be corrected
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