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re: Have y’all been reading the testimony of the Gruver case?

Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16215 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:22 am to
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I don't understand how they could convict the guy. At no time did anyone say he was held down and forcibly fed alcohol.


That is why he isn't charged with 2nd-degree murder or manslaughter.

The criminal negligence definition may help some try to digest this case: Criminal negligence exists when, although neither specific nor general criminal intent is present, there is such disregard of the interest of others that the offender's conduct amounts to a gross deviation below the standard of care expected to be maintained by a reasonably careful man under like circumstances.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
3078 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:22 am to
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Honestly, being on the jury for this would blow.

well since the Advocate has reported on the front page every time Naquin farts, we all should be experts now.

Anytime we had a pledge that we didn't like, we just quit telling them when/where the parties were, quit inviting them places. They got the hint. I sure as shite wasn't going to spend money buying them booze.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33395 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:23 am to
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He did


No shite. That's why I told him to stop there instead of telling him that he should remove his post. I've been around long enough to know that the questions will start coming fast and furious. In fact, only took three posts after yours.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
4424 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:28 am to
pretty sure everyone knew a matthew naquin in their fraternity
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:30 am to
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The Advocate article says the defense called 2 witnesses



Got it. The linked tweet makes it appear that the defense didn't call any witnesses.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2159 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:48 am to
Jury just reached a verdict
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23574 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:48 am to
That was fricking quick
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16215 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to
Kid is toast.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:56 am to
He is guilty.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:57 am to
Guilty.

Why only a 6-person jury? I'm not familiar with La Criminal Court system...
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23574 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:57 am to
Yep, guilty of negligent homicide
LINK
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4998 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:59 am to
the Gruver kid sounds like an immense dickhead tbh. hammered drunk 23 out of his first 28 days on campus and dumb enough to drink enough everclear to be 6x the legal limit.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23213 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:59 am to
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I don't understand how they could convict the guy. At no time did anyone say he was held down and forcibly fed alcohol. The Gruver kid could've said F it and left whenever he wanted to.

You were present during discovery?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:59 am to
How long will he serve and where?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148001 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:00 pm to
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How long will he serve and where?

could get as little as probation

max of 5 years

according to The Advocate
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98665 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:01 pm to
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No shite. That's why I told him to stop there instead of telling him that he should remove his post. I've been around long enough to know that the questions will start coming fast and furious. In fact, only took three posts after yours.


Yup. Could be grounds for a mistrial.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:09 pm to
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guilty of negligent homicide


are you fricking kidding me?

What's the precedent or did they just set one?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
3078 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:11 pm to
plenty of case law going back 30 years for precedent on cases exactly like this one.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23574 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:13 pm to
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plenty of case law going back 30 years for precedent on cases exactly like this one.

Is there a way to search these? Or do I have to be a lawyer for that?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:14 pm to
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plenty of case law going back 30 years for precedent on cases exactly like this one.



then you shouldn't have a problem citing a few

I'll wait
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 12:15 pm
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