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re: Have we ever discussed MS river changing directions, particularly Centennial Cutoff?
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:08 pm to FutureMikeVIII
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:08 pm to FutureMikeVIII
I believe the river is 300 miles or so shorter than it was in mark twain's day due to the straightening done by the Core or naturally occurring. Crazy to think if the power of that much water
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:12 pm to CAD703X
There's a valley to the east side of I-49 just south of Opelousas that I was once told the Mississippi River flowed there during the prehistoric period. Don't know the validity of it, though.
Hard to see the depth of it from Google Maps but it's located here: LINK
Hard to see the depth of it from Google Maps but it's located here: LINK
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:47 pm to udtiger
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I cannot find it, but I have seen a picture taken from the "dry" river bed towards Vicksburg. The river bottom was covered with "pits" from swirling eddies along the bottom caused by the current.
last time i was there, the 'riverwalk' in downtown vicksburg stunk like hell and mud as far as the eye could see..you could catch a glimpse of the MS..its about a mile away from downtown now.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:50 pm to CAD703X
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there's exactly ***ONE*** bridge over the river between Memphis and Vicksburg.
Actually there's two, Helena and Greenville.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:51 pm to CAD703X
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it was during the monsoon rains and he started running into issues around lake village
The hwy between Lake Village and Greenville flooded?
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:15 pm to Midtiger farm
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The hwy between Lake Village and Greenville flooded?
he was across the river and google was taking him on some backroads instead of through greenville.
a bridge somewhere along the route was flooded/closed and google redirected him onto a gravel road.
he went for awhile then the water was over the road so he turned around and it was starting to go over the road behind him too.
because gps and cell service was spotty, i'm not sure where he was but he said something about 'highway 1' and 'main'. he was on the MS side of the river at that point obviously.
eta wilcox road maybe??
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:11 pm to CAD703X
This is probably common knowledge, but Highland Road in BR is called that because it was the high land off the Miss River. That’s why you see that huge drop off where the nice homes between Lee drive and Prairieville. It’s a pretty steep decline. Alain, Magnilia Mound plantation off Nicholson was built in the bank of the Miss. it’s oribably a half mile off the rivers bank now. Not a huge amount, but still kinda cool to think about.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:14 pm to CAD703X
Go look at old picture of Windsor Ruins. River used to come right up to the front of it. Can't even see the river now.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:29 pm to supadave3
Clive Cussler wrote a book about locating some of the old steamship wrecks and gunboats etc. They found some of them miles from the present riverbed.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:35 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Trout and reds all the way up by MSY.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:38 pm to jlntiger
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traightening done by the Core
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:48 pm to CAD703X
Grant tried to dig a canal during the siege to landlock Vicksburg but it didn't work.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:51 pm to supadave3
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Alain, Magnilia Mound plantation off Nicholson was built in the bank of the Miss. it’s oribably a half mile off the rivers bank now. Not a huge amount, but still kinda cool to think about.
The river has changed course slightly in many places in Louisiana.
When I researched my paternal genealogy, I found records that my greatx5 grandfather who died in 1804 was buried in the church cemetery in St. James. I went there, hoping to see if his tombstone still existed. The woman in the church office told me that if he was buried in 1804, that part of the cemetery is now in the Mississippi River. In fact, the original church was located where the present levee is built. At present, the cemetery butts right up to the base of the levee.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:01 pm to CAD703X
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thats a great point. hadn't even thought that; was raised believing the state lines followed the MS river but damn..that was 250+ years ago in some cases. never crossed my mind the borders don't still line up today.
My brother in law owns part of a deer club at Yucatán Point between Yucatán Lake and the MS River directly across from the Port Gibson nuclear plant. Louisiana side but in the state of MS. He hunts MS rules and files MS taxes. Pretty interesting.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:17 pm to doublecutter
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When I researched my paternal genealogy, I found records that my greatx5 grandfather who died in 1804 was buried in the church cemetery in St. James. I went there, hoping to see if his tombstone still existed. The woman in the church office told me that if he was buried in 1804, that part of the cemetery is now in the Mississippi River. In fact, the original church was located where the present levee is built. At present, the cemetery butts right up to the base of the levee.
Most of the original townsite of St Maurice is in the middle of Red River. People would just move a little further back as the river changed course, but the original property descriptions are no longer valid. Big problems when somebody inherits or tries to sell land.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:09 pm to Jim Rockford
If the low sill structure at the Old River Control Structure ever pops, South louisiana as we know it is changed forever.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:44 pm to real turf fan
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Sometime go on google earth satellite images and wander up and down any of our major rivers in flood plains. The number of cut off meanders on the Mississippi is too many to count. and then look at the meaders that have cut through earlier oxbow lakes.
Something else that is interesting is to go on Google Earth at Vicksburg and instead of going up the Mississippi, start up the Yazoo and when you get around Yazoo City you start seeing a shite load of large oxbows. You can follow them up through Tchula, Greenwood, Schlater, Glendora, Tutwiler, Clarksdale and somewhere between Friar’s Point and Tunica it gets back to the Mississippi River.
According to an archeologist I know, thousands of years ago the MS River had a main channel which is the current river and the oxbows around it and a natural auxiliary channel. All of those long oxbows that meander through the east side of the Delta were what made up the auxiliary channel.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:50 pm to CAD703X
probably why there is a section of west feliciana parish on the current west side of the river accessible by LA-15.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:35 pm to CAD703X
This is a great thread. Pretty fascinating and
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