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re: Have any OTers had to deal with a biting child?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:14 pm to NoHoTiger
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:14 pm to NoHoTiger
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A little boy took the truck my niece was playing with. She took it back and hit him with it. Bright side, he never took another toy from her.
It's amazing how many stories there are of this working.
It's almost like kids need to learn by cause and effect at an early age.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:22 pm to DLauw
My youngest was a biter... took him one or two times ...but he finally saw the light and no longer felt the heat
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:23 pm to DLauw
Tell your daughter that she should tell the day care they need to have somebody shadow him before they kick him out so they can stop it from happening. If they won’t, she should do it a few hours herself...might be eye opening how much “supervision” does or doesn’t happen. They should also have multiples of the same toy in the classroom. If none of that works and he’s as smart as he claims, she should ask to have him moved to the 3 year old room for a week and see if he’s better there before jumping to just kick him out.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:24 pm to DLauw
My oldest was a biter. It heightened around the time she was 15 months old. We were on a “plan” at daycare, with the end result being kicked out if you can’t get it under control.
A lot of people are going to tell you to spank the kid, bite him back, whatever. She was my only at the time so we did ALL the things. And none of that stuff worked for her.
What did help? A couple of really great daycare workers and teaching her to talk.
The daycare, first, assigned her a “shadow.” As in put an extra aide in her classroom to help with biting (more than one kid had the problem). Now the policy at ours is you have to pay extra for that, but for a few weeks or so your daughter may be willing to do that to avoid losing her daycare. I also talked frequently to the teachers in her room. We identified when it happened, which seems to be, in your case, when he wants something another kid has. That’s important. In our case, I traveled for work periodically and it was around when she had stopped nursing, so I tried to let them know when there would be some disruption (I’m out of town, my husband is, something). That way they could anticipate better.
With my daughter we also bought a book called teeth are not for biting. We read it a lot. Her grandmother had one at her house, the daycare had one.
And finally, we worked on her speech. We focused on two easy words: please and no. We practiced over and over. All the way to daycare my husband would repeat “if you want something someone else has, what do you say? Please.” And “if someone is trying to take your toy what do you say? No.” If her teacher heard “peas” or “no” she’d remove my kid from the situation. Truly, when we got her to use two words, it made a big difference. And as her speech developed more fully the biting problem resolved because she didn’t need to bite to get her point across. (Now we get notes home that she talks too much in class.)
The situation sucks. My second kid was the one who got bit. And it is way, way easier to be on that side of things.
A lot of people are going to tell you to spank the kid, bite him back, whatever. She was my only at the time so we did ALL the things. And none of that stuff worked for her.
What did help? A couple of really great daycare workers and teaching her to talk.
The daycare, first, assigned her a “shadow.” As in put an extra aide in her classroom to help with biting (more than one kid had the problem). Now the policy at ours is you have to pay extra for that, but for a few weeks or so your daughter may be willing to do that to avoid losing her daycare. I also talked frequently to the teachers in her room. We identified when it happened, which seems to be, in your case, when he wants something another kid has. That’s important. In our case, I traveled for work periodically and it was around when she had stopped nursing, so I tried to let them know when there would be some disruption (I’m out of town, my husband is, something). That way they could anticipate better.
With my daughter we also bought a book called teeth are not for biting. We read it a lot. Her grandmother had one at her house, the daycare had one.
And finally, we worked on her speech. We focused on two easy words: please and no. We practiced over and over. All the way to daycare my husband would repeat “if you want something someone else has, what do you say? Please.” And “if someone is trying to take your toy what do you say? No.” If her teacher heard “peas” or “no” she’d remove my kid from the situation. Truly, when we got her to use two words, it made a big difference. And as her speech developed more fully the biting problem resolved because she didn’t need to bite to get her point across. (Now we get notes home that she talks too much in class.)
The situation sucks. My second kid was the one who got bit. And it is way, way easier to be on that side of things.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:29 pm to DLauw
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Years ago, when my kids were in daycare, I remember getting pissed when my kids would get bitten by other people’s kids. The shoe’s on the other foot now.
Found the problem. No reason to get pissed because pre-k kids are biting eachother.
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He’s about to be kicked from a really good daycare that she had to waitlist to get into. According to the workers, it’s a sharing type thing. If he wants something and another child won’t let him have it, he bites. He bit four kids today
That sucks, but he is getting kicked out because of parents like you. Just saying.
However, I feel for you and your daughter. I think kicking kids out of school for doing such a primal thing is ridiculous. Tons of kids bite, especially in the 2 and younger range.
I don’t have a ton of advice for the kid, other than standard time out in a designated spot and multiple daily reinforcement that biting is not ok. Try not to spank over physical stuff like this.
The best advice I can give is for your daughter, I know my wife gets super embarrassed by this type of thing but fact is we are dealing with young kids and this type of behavior is a compensation for their lack of communication skills which they will develop over time. Kicking a kid out is unfair to the family and a disservice to the child because of the introduction of the notion that there is something wrong with your kid. There isn’t. I’ve been on both sides of this, they all bite and hit each other
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:29 pm to DLauw
Well.....I can add a fear for the future of my 2 week old. Didn’t know biting was this common
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:34 pm to DLauw
My youngest was a biter when she was two, it seemed like I was signing an acknowledgment form every other day. My oldest was in a daycare that would kick a kid out of the program for bitting too many times so I was terrified that was going to happen to my youngest. When I asked the teacher how many times before she was kicked out, she was so confused because they never kick a kid out for biting at that age. It was 100% developmentally normal, all it meant was that they needed to give my youngest other tools besides biting. Teachers worked with the entire class on sharing and at home we would role play sharing and asking for a turn with overexaggerated praise. I'm sure reward stickers were used too. :) She stopped after a few weeks and has never done it since.
It really illustrated the difference between a daycare program and an actual school with full time, certified early education teachers.
It really illustrated the difference between a daycare program and an actual school with full time, certified early education teachers.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:36 pm to Corbello4Heisman
Thanks to you and Queen. I sent screenshots of both of your posts to her just now.
This is why I ask for advice here. There’s a lot of comedy and BS posts, but the OT usually delivers solid advice once you muddle through the the BS
This is why I ask for advice here. There’s a lot of comedy and BS posts, but the OT usually delivers solid advice once you muddle through the the BS
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:39 pm to Queen
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The situation sucks. My second kid was the one who got bit. And it is way, way easier to be on that side of things.
Yup. When my daughter (who was the biter) finally got bit back we shook that shite off and whispered to each other “ about time lol”
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:41 pm to ksayetiger
quote:Biting your schlong during a BJ is not ideal.
I dated a biter. that was awesome and horrible at the same time
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:43 pm to OceanMan
quote:I initially downvoted your post because of this statement, but reading it again and the rest of your response, I understood more clearly what you were saying. It was a quality response and I’m sorry for the downvote.
That sucks, but he is getting kicked out because of parents like you. Just saying.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:45 pm to DLauw
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If he wants something and another child won’t let him have it, he bites. He bit four kids today.
No wonder the Rona is spreading like crazy
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:50 pm to DLauw
When I was about 9, out of the blue, my “very best friend” bit me on my forehead above my right eye, almost bit a chunk of flesh off. Broke my heart. Hope you find a way to break him of that nasty, cruel habit ASAP.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:09 pm to DLauw
I’m going to be honest and I know it may sound a-hole-ish but my oldest used to be a biter and he bit my wife and she bit him back and he never bit anybody again
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:09 pm to DLauw
Yep. Two out of three bit. I bit them back and they learned realllllll fast.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:10 pm to DLauw
The point about other parents being the reason for this policy is definitely true. Our daycare director and every employee was really great. They have to have a policy because parents whose kids get bit demand it. I very clearly was doing my part in our case and they worked with me. For example, one day they called me and said I had to come get her because she had bitten two kids already that morning. It was a half hour til naptime so I asked if she could stay and nap. They agreed, which allowed me to stay at work an extra two hours.
We never officially got “off” the plan. They never tell the biter’s parent who the biter is (not officially). But eventually when it becomes less common for him it just kind of goes away. One time the kid who got bit was a close friend’s child. He was unconcerned and to this day jokes about it. Another time it was a parent who went straight to the director. I got a call from her that week, but by then it had been a year since my kid had really had a problem, so nothing came of it.
We never officially got “off” the plan. They never tell the biter’s parent who the biter is (not officially). But eventually when it becomes less common for him it just kind of goes away. One time the kid who got bit was a close friend’s child. He was unconcerned and to this day jokes about it. Another time it was a parent who went straight to the director. I got a call from her that week, but by then it had been a year since my kid had really had a problem, so nothing came of it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:18 pm to hubreb
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Bite the kid, he will realize it hurts and stop
This...
When my sister was 2, she began to bite. I was 5 at the time and was the unfortunate recipient of her attention. Our parents spanked her, lectured her, took privileges away from her.. you get the idea. Nothing curtailed her biting.
A family friend told my mother to let me bite her back. Which my parents reluctantly did. On the inevitable day that she bit me, I bit her back. Unfortunately, our parents were not home. My grandparents were and I got a good butt whooping. All the while yelling that mom told me to bite her...
However, my sister never bit me again.
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