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re: Have any of you tried the Carnivore Diet ?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:21 pm to ronricks
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:21 pm to ronricks
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Plenty of people do high intensity prolonged workouts in a gym on a Carnivore diet.
The average human has about 2,000 calories of glycogen stores. If your workout burn stays within your current available glycogen that you won't bonk. If the intensity is low enough or intermittent enough you can use fats for energy. If you outrun your glycogen stores you will bonk. If you plan on a burn higher than your glycogen stores you have to be replenishing it during the effort at least 30 minutes preferably and hour before you reach the threshold the ONLY way to replenish the glycogen fast enough without reducing effort is to take in simple sugars.
My initial point was diets need to fit lifestyle. There is no magic bullet diet for everyone and presenting it like that is simply wrong. Most of the well-vetted diets will work for a lot of people but simply won't work for all people. High GI foods are poor choices for many people and needed by others.
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:33 pm to Obtuse1
Glycogen is largely useless in food sources; the body only maintains a several-hour reserve (about the time it takes for you to feel hungry after a full meal). Muscles deplete their stored glycogen very quickly under exertion. All this means that glycogen is mostly synthesized from glucose, which is almost always available, rather than scrounged from food.
Go take a lap.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:54 pm to ronricks
The average male has about 2,000 kCal of glycogen stores.
Random link
You do burn through glycogen quickly that is my whole point. I have about an hour of stores when I start a ride, it lasts me about 1 hour top performance and my performance will degrade if I am not taking in carbs earlier in that hour. Simple carbs are by far the best here. Your body simply doesn't have glucose laying around unless you have eaten at the right time and amount.
General info on carb uptake during a ride
Trainright
Don't believe me? Just do anything continuous at an attempted 700-800 kJ output for 2-3 hours on a pure carnivore diet and see how your output drops off a cliff when you bonk. You won't have the stores to fuel your muscles for that long (no human does) and you won't be able to replace it fast enough.
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Glycogen Storage
Unless you’re fasting or unless you’ve just completed a long and exhausting exercise session, your muscles already contain varying amounts of glycogen. How much? A well-nourished person that weighs 80 kilograms stores, on average, about 500 grams of glycogen, although you can boost this even more by eating a carbohydrate-rich diet. Since each gram of glucose can be converted to 4 kilocalories of usable energy, this equates to 2,000 calories of stored energy. Of this, around 400 grams, or 1,600 calories, are in your muscles and about 100 grams, or 400 calories of glycogen, are stored in your liver.
Random link
You do burn through glycogen quickly that is my whole point. I have about an hour of stores when I start a ride, it lasts me about 1 hour top performance and my performance will degrade if I am not taking in carbs earlier in that hour. Simple carbs are by far the best here. Your body simply doesn't have glucose laying around unless you have eaten at the right time and amount.
General info on carb uptake during a ride
Trainright
Don't believe me? Just do anything continuous at an attempted 700-800 kJ output for 2-3 hours on a pure carnivore diet and see how your output drops off a cliff when you bonk. You won't have the stores to fuel your muscles for that long (no human does) and you won't be able to replace it fast enough.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:28 am to Norway
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Did this same Dr. also advise you to take the Covid Shot because it was safe & effective ?
No, but he did run the labs and tell me what my LDL was. Which is one reason why it would be a good idea to ask your Dr about it. Seems a lot of folks get in their feelings defending this diet.
Simply losing weight is going to lower your LDL, but people that stick to this new trendy diet long term are going to see their LDL rise once they stop losing a lot of weight and remaining on the diet long term that cholesterol starts to clog those arteries. You are strictly eating animal products (massive cholesterol)
People with any predisposed heart issues are eventually going to have a negative effect.
Downvote away. It’s going to be a good idea to ask your doc if it’s good for you (not a youtube doc trying to grow his channel or website or sell a product) You need to know your LDL and other factors before buying into the macho meat diet craze.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:22 am to Norway
Yes, I've done 4 days a week for about 3 months where I'd only eat twice a day (lunch and dinner) and I went from 190 to 170. Great mental clarity, but a good deal less explosive energy for workouts. It's difficult to stick to because there are only 4 meats to choose from. Chicken, pork, beef, and fish. I found it easy to burn out on it. I think an ideal diet would be meat, fruit, and veggies only. No bread and pasta or junk food and you'd feel amazing I'd bet.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:32 am to Norway
I only eat meat and fish, veggies, and fruit in moderation now. I've never felt better in my life. People would be amazed at what your body does after cutting out all the processed crap. I use animal fats, extra virgin olive oils, and avocado oils to cook with.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:38 am to Norway
My brother has done it his whole life. He is skinny
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:53 am to Norway
I’m somewhere between keto and carnivore for the last 2 weeks. Basically eat 2 meals a day, one is bacon and eggs or steak and eggs and the other is whatever I can get that has near 0 carbs.
As a Type 1 Diabetic, I should have been doing this my whole life(diagnosed at 5, 34 now). My time in blood glucose range is 95% over the last 2 weeks. Before it was always under 50%. My last A1c was 7.3 about a week before I switched my diet. I’m hoping to get in the 5’s for the first time in my life in 2 months.
As a Type 1 Diabetic, I should have been doing this my whole life(diagnosed at 5, 34 now). My time in blood glucose range is 95% over the last 2 weeks. Before it was always under 50%. My last A1c was 7.3 about a week before I switched my diet. I’m hoping to get in the 5’s for the first time in my life in 2 months.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:05 am to Norway
People overcomplicate nutrition.
The old wisdom of simply always having multiple colors on your plate (not skittles ya fatties), controlling portions, and exercising a few times a week still holds.
The old wisdom of simply always having multiple colors on your plate (not skittles ya fatties), controlling portions, and exercising a few times a week still holds.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:11 am to Dragula
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Feel and look great......., modem diets are so unhealthy especially Cajun/Creole/ Italian/Mexican.
Think about it...boudin, jambalaya, roux, cream sauces, French bread, pasta, pizza, tacos, fajitas, rice...don't even get me started on a alcohol and deserts.
Give it up and it will be life changing.
It is life changing, if you want to be boring as hell that's fantastic.
I think strictly dieting to lose weight or prepare for something is fantastic, but at the end of the day 95%+ of people need to just do moderate excercise and eat in appropriate portions.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 4:20 pm to CrystalPreserves
Wrong. I’d recommend you check out Nick Norwitz, Dave Feldman and LMHR, etc.
This may be of interest as well: Dietary Cholesterol and the Lack of Evidence in Cardiovascular Disease
You seem so entrenched in your “ooga booga cholesterol bad” mindset I imagine you won’t though.
This may be of interest as well: Dietary Cholesterol and the Lack of Evidence in Cardiovascular Disease
You seem so entrenched in your “ooga booga cholesterol bad” mindset I imagine you won’t though.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:42 pm to TheMollusk
I read the link.
It reads:
LDL bad. Ooga Booga is right. It will clog you up and contribute greatly to CHD.
It reads:
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As noted earlier, several of the high cholesterol foods are also rich in saturated fatty acids such as beef (untrimmed and with marble), natural cheese, and butter (Table 1, and the USDA Nutrient Composition Database), and thus may increase the risk of CVD due to the saturated fatty acid content. The exceptions are shrimps (zero saturated fatty acids) and eggs (1.56 gm saturated fatty acids per large egg which accounts for 0.65% of calories).
LDL bad. Ooga Booga is right. It will clog you up and contribute greatly to CHD.
Posted on 10/18/24 at 7:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I've heard the diarrhea is terrible for a long while to start
I've heard the same about quitting heroin. No thanks.
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:16 pm to ruzil
You mean the Texas de Brazil diet
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